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Advices To BJP Party
Anyone dismissing Vaishnavs show a complete lack of awareness of cultural history of India, and are probably also under remanat influence of Thaparite reconstructions. There were Vaishnavs before the "Bhakti" leaders, and there were non-Vishnu followers who could be considered "Bhakti". In any case the major Bhakti-Vaishnavas all arose and formulated their doctrine before the advent of European preachers proper, so unlikely to have been able to borrow from Christian dogma.

It is also a mistake in not being able to understand the Bhakti-Vaishanavas as political-cultural movement that arose out of intellectuals opting to give leadership of the "non-Muslim" community for survival. This introduced elements of political strategy and otherfeatures of a political mass movement, that can appear "Christian like" - which also had a similar circumstantial origin in the Jewish liberation struggle agaisnt the Romans - before it was usurped and reconstructed as an imperial doctrine.

I read the debate between Mudyji and SRoyji. It appears that the Durga-puja busting opinion comes from a very narrow urban experience. There are many festivals in the entire Gangetic belt, where public religious fests are also occasions for exotic and not-so-exotic activities being derided on the Durga Puja. Dussera and Diwali celebration, Chaat Puja in Bihar, Holi in general, and other many such regional festivals are observed differently in rural and urban areas. Singling out Durga Puja as the sole "criminal" in this regard is myopic to say the least.

I can describe explicitly practices around religious festivals and gatherings that will appear even more exotic and deridable that take place in UP-Bihar regions - sale of women for example. I was escorted out for my own safety from one such festival-fair somewhere on the north-Bihar-UP border. Let us not associate, unethical and criminal activities as being sourced by the religious festival itself, for that way, almost all "Hindu" festivals will become guilty.

Can we see why the "Hindu" cannot get united? Because it still cannot feel its far-flung cousins as family. If you think a family member is straying, you do not beat him to a pulp, but talk with him and engage with him. What is this chasing each other with big fat sticks?

Forget all these regional distrust, which takes the form of polemical accusations of deviations from the "pure" path. Everyone, has to search within himself for purity. This means each region which prides itself on its purity must look into th reality of that purity. If you cannot think of the neighbouring Hindu as your brother and of the same family - because he looks different, speaks a different tongue, and practises what I feel is strange, then forget advising BJP.

That neighbour could actually be derived from a source closer to "Hindu" roots as indicated in his complexion, could be speaking a tongue that is closer to Sanskrit and proto-Sanskrit compared to your own tingue which you yourself perhaps do not know that it has more foreign loan-words. That neighbour could actually be observing rituals of more core "Hindu" spiritual thinking that you yourself do not recognize any more.

Please, stop and think about what you yourself do, where it comes from, before trying to expel other Hindus from the flock because they appear to deviate from what you consider the pure path.

Only after we manage that unity and sense of belonging, can we show the audacity of advising the BJP. If you unify yourself, BJP will automatically rectify. If it does not it will be replaced automatically by some other party that does the job.
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