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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The last time I checked none of the saints proclaimed themselves as greatest bubba around, it is "us" the lowly people who see them in relative importance, as per our understanding. How is the egoistic view of the saints? Now are we thinking for the saints?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I did not say the saints Ram, it is us who grade them as less or more important, and it is our own ego, pride and attachment that impels this. My point was once we start thinking this way, sooner or later we will start grading ourselves in relative importance, we start differentiating based on OUR values, and finally we get to discrimination.

To resolve this we have to simply see all souls as equal, no one more or less important. That our saints were once in our stage of karmic evolution, and that we all too will reach the same stage of their attainments. In other words, we are only different in time. Once we change to this attitude, we respect every man, women, child and dalit as equal to saints, but we do not necessarily take counsel from them. If Shankara can apologise to a dalit with palms together after realising the truth, that all are equal, so can we. I am asking we adopt this attitude.

Once we take this attitude, perhaps we can realise that JS is undergoing a similar karma, possibly his last one before attaining realisation. Therefore we rejoice. You can see the parallels with Shankara and so many other saints.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You do not have to answer this, but curiosity drives me to ask if you are categorizing Rama and Krishna too in the same 'sand grain' pile.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Referring only to karma bound evolving souls who HAVE take birth on earth to resolve those karmas.

Regards.

Pathma