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Well Ashok,

Abuse of power or discrimination should not be accepted. Accepting our karma means blaming no one for our misfortunes or circumstance but bravely dealing with it. This means to fight injustice, if any, and fighting discrimination.

As to whether there has been injustice and abuse of power against JS, VS and Kanchi matha, well that to be taken up in the other thread, not here. Personally I dont see any abuse of justice yet, therefore I keep away from that thread. The only thing I can admit is that the various govts of India have been guilty of selective prosecution, preferring not to investigate and prosecute certain political cronies.

The way I see it, with another murder in the next door matha, and the govt plans to take over the kanchi matha, things are just getting worse.

1. Karma - It is all bad karma of Shankaracharya that he has to face false police cases
2. Nothing that happens is evil - Supporters of the acharya should try to see the ultimate good in the abuse
3. Everything is God's will. - so don't protest against the abuse[QUOTE]

What is that you want to protest against, and to whom? Aren't you filing your defence? What else do you want to do? Tell me?

When people remain Hindu and fight the caste discrimination, means they accept the circumstance they are in, but are fighting the social injustice. This does not mean accepting the abuse. Like the people fought the caste discrimination, now we fight the case against the seer.

I don't support any restrictions based on birth for being eligible for any school or job. Personally, I think veda-pathshalas should not be restricted by one's birth. And I think sooner such retrictions, if present, are removed, the better.

I think we are beginning to understand each other better.

[QUOTE]But we again drop into a moral morass if people support the state that 'reserves' upto 70% of public funded opportunities against brahmins, while blasting brahmins for 'reserving' private funded veda-pathshalas for themselves.

And we want to bring international pressure on India to drop all these caste based reservations. Now why are YOU against this? I simply dont understand. Do you think that India will ever drop reservations without the thread of sanctions and embargo on its economy?

What I know of Shri Shankaracharya Jayendra Sarasvati is that he has tried hard to reform the system while facing stiff oppositions from the 'traditionalists', Shankararaman included.

I am sorry. No, he has not, except for sops to dalits. This year we are going to introduce free namakarana samskara and upanayana for those willing and wanting, to severel hundred dalit children in India. This is real reformation. Watch and see. And pleasingly humiliate yourself knowing that it didn't take a seer to do this.

Then there are others who would say "forget reforms, just close the whole place down and be done with it. Hinduism has a whole sea-beach with saints and sampradayas scattered like sands. Why should one care about one grain of sand."

Like I said before, we could not care less even if all our beloved monasteries and temples are closed in India, if thats what it takes to reform Hinduism of these caste discrimination. But we are hoping this is not what it takes.

The problem with this approach is that, on closer scrutiny even their pet sampradays appear in need of reform. They of course would deny it, but the key word here is 'impartial'. If one were to apply this 'close down and be done with' approach impartially, the sea beach will be cleaned out of all the sand.

Go ahead. Call for the closure of any one matha that discriminates against you as a Hindu. I will back you.

Pathma