01-20-2005, 10:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This year we are going to introduce free namakarana samskara and upanayana for those willing and wanting, to severel hundred dalit children in India. This is real reformation. Watch and see. And pleasingly humiliate yourself knowing that it didn't take a seer to do this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I congratulate you on these efforts, and wish you success. I just hope you don't cause equal or more damage while doing something good, thats all. And during all this try to remember that you are trying to uproot the caste-bigotry, not induce it in a different form.
I do feel pleasingly humiliated to know that you can come up with such an eloquent expression. In the same spirit, if someone ever lets you wash a baby, I would advise them to keep an hawk eye on your conduct with the bath-water.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And we want to bring international pressure on India to drop all these caste based reservations. Now why are YOU against this? I simply dont understand. Do you think that India will ever drop reservations without the thread of sanctions and embargo on its economy?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You live in an unreal realm, if you think something like this can ever happen.
Caste based reservations will go away in India only by two mecahnisms:
1. Judicial activism
2. Some kind of revolution that changes the political system
Barring these, political class is never going to root for undoing the reservations. For them it is one way street.
The best option is Judicial activism. As in the constitution, resrvations were meant to be for only first 10 years of the republic. They were not supposed to be perpetual. When Judiciary decides that reservations have served there purpose, it can force politicians to abolish it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said before, we could not care less even if all our beloved monasteries and temples are closed in India, if thats what it takes to reform Hinduism of these caste discrimination. But we are hoping this is not what it takes.
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Go ahead. Call for the closure of any one matha that discriminates against you as a Hindu. I will back you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know you don't care. But I do. Your approach is destructive. Although often it is so unrealistic, that one hopes that only damage it may cause would be confined to castles in the air. Remember discrimination is not regarding caste only. And reforms are needed not only in the case of discriminative practices.
I congratulate you on these efforts, and wish you success. I just hope you don't cause equal or more damage while doing something good, thats all. And during all this try to remember that you are trying to uproot the caste-bigotry, not induce it in a different form.
I do feel pleasingly humiliated to know that you can come up with such an eloquent expression. In the same spirit, if someone ever lets you wash a baby, I would advise them to keep an hawk eye on your conduct with the bath-water.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And we want to bring international pressure on India to drop all these caste based reservations. Now why are YOU against this? I simply dont understand. Do you think that India will ever drop reservations without the thread of sanctions and embargo on its economy?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You live in an unreal realm, if you think something like this can ever happen.
Caste based reservations will go away in India only by two mecahnisms:
1. Judicial activism
2. Some kind of revolution that changes the political system
Barring these, political class is never going to root for undoing the reservations. For them it is one way street.
The best option is Judicial activism. As in the constitution, resrvations were meant to be for only first 10 years of the republic. They were not supposed to be perpetual. When Judiciary decides that reservations have served there purpose, it can force politicians to abolish it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said before, we could not care less even if all our beloved monasteries and temples are closed in India, if thats what it takes to reform Hinduism of these caste discrimination. But we are hoping this is not what it takes.
...
Go ahead. Call for the closure of any one matha that discriminates against you as a Hindu. I will back you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know you don't care. But I do. Your approach is destructive. Although often it is so unrealistic, that one hopes that only damage it may cause would be confined to castles in the air. Remember discrimination is not regarding caste only. And reforms are needed not only in the case of discriminative practices.