01-22-2005, 12:58 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Pathmarajah+Jan 21 2005, 01:32 PM-->QUOTE(Pathmarajah @ Jan 21 2005, 01:32 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> I said that 'call for the closure of any matha that discriminates against you', and I'll support that. Siddha.com is not a matha. <!--emo&
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Why shut down only discriminating mathas? Sounds like a pretty convenient stand you've adopted. Would qualify as reverse-discriminating? I can picture say Rosa Parks taking a firm standing against that lone discriminating Alabama bus and approving discrimination in other trains, hotels, clubs etc.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No I am not defending a position and it is not a question of self respecting citizens seeking solutions from outside its borders. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is. Do you have any ideas on the existing laws and practices in India? Do you know as to how many of them are implemented and how many aren't? Any guess' on who's supposed to be implementing them and why they are or aren't? Any comments on reforms that prop up every couple of centuries and why they have or not sustained? Your posts so far seems to be targeted towards bringing 'reforming Hindusim' in India - if necessary with 'pressure from international groups'. This really has become a business and there are plenty of NGOs in India working with the exact same agenda. Is your position any different from authors like Dinesh D'Souza who have in past called on foreign powers to 'fix democracy' in India.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And do you think, the Hindu believers in the rest of the world have no say in what happens in the temples and mathas?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter whether you are Brahmin or not; if you are not on the Board of Trustees at a local temple your say in what goes around in the temples or mathas is pretty much limited. You are free to contest elections and bring out changes in mathas or temples. But then if some jingo decides to place all idols facing Mecca rather than the traditional east, then some will of course question the validity of such a move. Of course you are free to open your own temples and run it a manner you see fit and if you screw up no seer will issue a fatwa or a hukumnama on you.
Frankly you don't need an instiution or a seer or anyone between you and God. Pick up your Gita or a book of your choice, who cares. Don't miss the forest in woods (or was it the other way around?)
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Why shut down only discriminating mathas? Sounds like a pretty convenient stand you've adopted. Would qualify as reverse-discriminating? I can picture say Rosa Parks taking a firm standing against that lone discriminating Alabama bus and approving discrimination in other trains, hotels, clubs etc.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No I am not defending a position and it is not a question of self respecting citizens seeking solutions from outside its borders. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is. Do you have any ideas on the existing laws and practices in India? Do you know as to how many of them are implemented and how many aren't? Any guess' on who's supposed to be implementing them and why they are or aren't? Any comments on reforms that prop up every couple of centuries and why they have or not sustained? Your posts so far seems to be targeted towards bringing 'reforming Hindusim' in India - if necessary with 'pressure from international groups'. This really has become a business and there are plenty of NGOs in India working with the exact same agenda. Is your position any different from authors like Dinesh D'Souza who have in past called on foreign powers to 'fix democracy' in India.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And do you think, the Hindu believers in the rest of the world have no say in what happens in the temples and mathas?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter whether you are Brahmin or not; if you are not on the Board of Trustees at a local temple your say in what goes around in the temples or mathas is pretty much limited. You are free to contest elections and bring out changes in mathas or temples. But then if some jingo decides to place all idols facing Mecca rather than the traditional east, then some will of course question the validity of such a move. Of course you are free to open your own temples and run it a manner you see fit and if you screw up no seer will issue a fatwa or a hukumnama on you.
Frankly you don't need an instiution or a seer or anyone between you and God. Pick up your Gita or a book of your choice, who cares. Don't miss the forest in woods (or was it the other way around?)