Hindu Seer and related discussion only

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Pathma,

Sure the laws have to be implemented. But how many more years do you need before admitting failure?

I don't know there was some kind of a finish-line defined by you that the rest of the Indian nation has to adhere before admitting 'success' or 'failure'. One has only to look at the history of India in totality and the strides made in past 50+ years to see an emerging trend.
Will admit that a lot still has to be done but we are pretty ahead of other "ism's" and nations you favor advising/pressurising us.

Though if you are in a hurry, I'll recommend you send your Egyptian friend to the Mahila priest school in India pronto. Not sure as to what you are waiting for as you have stated in another thread. It could a small start in right direction.

Regarding international pressure, that is to remove the job reservation system which is itself entrenching casteism, as well as freeing the temples from govt control ONLY. Why do we have to view this negatively? I just dont see how the Indian govt is going to do this voluntarily. Unless they have a time frame to end reservations and control of temples

Indians are perfectly capable for opposing reservations, thank you. Check response to Mandal commissions of early 90s. There's a running thread on this forum too. Let the rest of the world clean it's own stable before they can even hold a candle to India.

I am not sure you are defending India or Hinduism. I'm making a clear disctinction between the two, and we are saying Hinduism is our business too

I don't see how 'international pressure' can be brought on Hinduism and not on India. As for these people from 'international pressure groups' what caste/creed/religion/idealogy do they suscribe to? Islam? Christianity? Judaism? Cool-aid drinking cult? Or those doning purple in a haste to meet their maker in a alien spaceship?
I'm not sure as to why you are putting yourself outside Hindusim as saying "it's our business too."

You know the billions the catholic church paid to settle the phedophile cases?

Sorry. Over hundred phedophile preists are still on the job tending 'the flock' - <b>in US alone</b>. And the Vatican has yet to come up with a firm condemnation and guidelines of handling this issue.

Good. JS has always my sympathy as a person who bears his karma bravely.

Correct me here Pathama. Within 24 hours of seers arrest when there was hardly any evidence published in media, you had a different position. Why this 180 degree now? Just curious.

and dont know where to start, cant even make a difference between JS the man, and JS the seer, and greeting any suggestions with hostility.

On Diwali day when you showed up with a baton to lead a parade to crucify JS, was it against 'JS the seer' or 'JS the man'.

Once India is modestly developed, which I forsee (oops!) by 2010 or 2012, most of the priesthood would have automatically reformed.

Can you define what you mean by 'modestly developed' cause one can say India's not 'modestly developed' even a hundred years from now or conversly it's 'modestly developed' today. Subject definitions lie in the eyes of the beholder.

In a country where the founding father, a man of peace and ahimsa, is killed in the name of religion,...

Abe Linclon? Joan of Arc? Jesus? Martin Luther King?

where the guards turn on and kill their own PM, ...

Familiar with rise and sikh militism in India? Or more importantly the cause for the same?

when a PM is wacked on the head by a common soldier, then killed by another women,

Wacking happened in Sri Lanka and the solider was Buddhist. And the one killed by women wasn't sitting PM.

all this tells me this is a nation of heavy karmas

Don't worry since there's no evil (per your own earlier post), people will do fine so no international pressure is needed. Trust you are referring to India here with 'nation' comment rather than Hinduism.

All these have not much to do with topic in question though it gives and idea of where your posts are coming from.