01-26-2005, 01:19 AM
Gangajalji,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->brahman = narayana + jiva + jagat<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or is it naryana +jiva + jagat does not exist independent of Brahman?
Limit Narayana +jiva +jagat = Brahman?
Perception --> end of Maya
(i.e as Sundar ji said, scope limitation. )
Does Ramanujacharya goes and says that there is no nirguna brahman which is beyond (Narayana + jiva + Jagat) or does he restrict his explanation of Shruti and smriti to (Narayana + jiva + jagat). Did Ramanuja ever claim what he said is *the truth* and nothing else is or his sishyakotigal infer it has *the truth*. I infer that Ramanujacharya never talked about Vishitadvaita and only his sisyakotigal like Vedanta desikan coined the name. I remember reading that Vedanta desika as a contemporary and a friend of Vidyaranya.
BTW,
Here is a sloka on Sriman Narayanan to contemplate,
<b>Naaraayana Stothram</b>
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Namaateetam Nadaateetam Naa-rangam Om
Naa-ateetam Naa-anaagatam Nabhi-padmam Om
Nabhi-padmam om! Nabhi-padmam om!! (1)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Rajyaateetam Raagateetam Rupateetam Om
Radhateetam Rasaateetam Raasa-leelam Om
Raasa-leelam Om! Raasa-leelam Om!! (2)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Yamaateetam Yasaateetam Yaadaateetam Om
Yagnyaateetam Yogaateetam Yoga-bindum Om
Yoga-bindum Om! Yoga-bindum Om!! (3)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Naa-sthiraam Naa-chalaam Naa-ashraayam Om
Niranjanam Nirmalam Nirantharam Om
Nirantharam Om! Nirantharam Om!!
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->brahman = narayana + jiva + jagat<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or is it naryana +jiva + jagat does not exist independent of Brahman?
Limit Narayana +jiva +jagat = Brahman?
Perception --> end of Maya
(i.e as Sundar ji said, scope limitation. )
Does Ramanujacharya goes and says that there is no nirguna brahman which is beyond (Narayana + jiva + Jagat) or does he restrict his explanation of Shruti and smriti to (Narayana + jiva + jagat). Did Ramanuja ever claim what he said is *the truth* and nothing else is or his sishyakotigal infer it has *the truth*. I infer that Ramanujacharya never talked about Vishitadvaita and only his sisyakotigal like Vedanta desikan coined the name. I remember reading that Vedanta desika as a contemporary and a friend of Vidyaranya.
BTW,
Here is a sloka on Sriman Narayanan to contemplate,
<b>Naaraayana Stothram</b>
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Namaateetam Nadaateetam Naa-rangam Om
Naa-ateetam Naa-anaagatam Nabhi-padmam Om
Nabhi-padmam om! Nabhi-padmam om!! (1)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Rajyaateetam Raagateetam Rupateetam Om
Radhateetam Rasaateetam Raasa-leelam Om
Raasa-leelam Om! Raasa-leelam Om!! (2)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Yamaateetam Yasaateetam Yaadaateetam Om
Yagnyaateetam Yogaateetam Yoga-bindum Om
Yoga-bindum Om! Yoga-bindum Om!! (3)
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
Naa-sthiraam Naa-chalaam Naa-ashraayam Om
Niranjanam Nirmalam Nirantharam Om
Nirantharam Om! Nirantharam Om!!
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Naraayana Naraayana Om
Naraayana Om! Naraayana Om!!
