Vedanta - Discussion Forum I (introductory))

[gangajal]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ashok Kumar+Jan 27 2005, 04:37 AM-->QUOTE(Ashok Kumar @ Jan 27 2005, 04:37 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> Gangajal, if brahman IS beyond reality, you couldn't use the term 'IS" in the sentence.

I think what you are trying to say is that brahman, maya and jagat and jivas are equally REAL.  Calling something (which presumably 'is') beyond 'reality', is a fallacy. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ashok Kumar,
When one says Brahman is beyond reality one means that Brahman is beyond the reality grasped by the ordinary human mind. For example, I am not seeing Brahman right now. Yet our scriptures and sages and saints are saying Brahman is ALL. So in some sense the reality that my mind is telling me is not the ENTIRE reality. If the reality that my mind is telling me is all then there can be no Brahman. It is only in this sense that Brahman is beyond reality. A more exact way to say this is that Brahman is beyond the limited reality seen by my mind. There is no fallacy here.