01-20-2010, 09:29 AM
Though I do think, the horse was native to the steppe region and perhaps was domesticated there by R1a groups, the acquisition of bronze tools, and invention of wheel, and perhaps even basics of agriculture must have probably originated much south and travelled north from the North India/Afghanistan ( around Mehergarh ) region to the steppe R1a groups through cultural diffustion and perhaps trade, or even two way travel.
The Mehergarh settlements originated agriculture, perhaps even invented bronze, and dependancy on milk diet. And the later day Indus valley civilisation, which was even more advanced, with wheeled carts driven by Ox probably transmitted some of their technological advancements to the Steppe groups to their north. ( i refuse to believe that they ( indus valley ) suddenly collapsed due to invading 'groups' ) ( I do know that existing literature says first wheel appeared in Poland around 3500 BC, but i am a little skeptical about this )
Post glacial R1a populations across the steppes around Caspian Sea, probably were very primitive, and entirely depended on hunted animal meat and caves for survival. And all their Chariots, bronze technology/weapons, and a few other aspects like change to a milk based diet, all most likely came to them from the groups south , that is in the Iran/Afghanistan/North Indian regions, who were also predominantly R1a I think ( atleast at that time period )
And these advances, definitely, gave them an edge, when they went west, and conquered western europe, ( atleast culturally ). And i am sure many of the steppe groups also spread south later, and invaded/diffused , due to their war like culture, but i doubt, it was anything like the colonization of superior groups with weapons over the primitive natives ( as described by the so called AIT )
The above theory is my two cents worth, for all the holes in it! <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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The Mehergarh settlements originated agriculture, perhaps even invented bronze, and dependancy on milk diet. And the later day Indus valley civilisation, which was even more advanced, with wheeled carts driven by Ox probably transmitted some of their technological advancements to the Steppe groups to their north. ( i refuse to believe that they ( indus valley ) suddenly collapsed due to invading 'groups' ) ( I do know that existing literature says first wheel appeared in Poland around 3500 BC, but i am a little skeptical about this )
Post glacial R1a populations across the steppes around Caspian Sea, probably were very primitive, and entirely depended on hunted animal meat and caves for survival. And all their Chariots, bronze technology/weapons, and a few other aspects like change to a milk based diet, all most likely came to them from the groups south , that is in the Iran/Afghanistan/North Indian regions, who were also predominantly R1a I think ( atleast at that time period )
And these advances, definitely, gave them an edge, when they went west, and conquered western europe, ( atleast culturally ). And i am sure many of the steppe groups also spread south later, and invaded/diffused , due to their war like culture, but i doubt, it was anything like the colonization of superior groups with weapons over the primitive natives ( as described by the so called AIT )
The above theory is my two cents worth, for all the holes in it! <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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