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India/western Sociology
Talking of "right" makes sense if there exists a "left". Does any "left" exist in TSP? For that matter, in India - is there anything truly called "left". If it doesen't there is no point in labeling "rights" - both in TSP and India.



Second, if "right" does exist - why is it necessarily "bad"? Talking of only the SS/BajDal as "right" appears to make only the "Hindu" giving rise to "right-wing" "extremism". What about the various Islamist parties in India, who are somehow never mentioned as "right-wing"? Are the Islamists "leftist"? On the othetr hand if both "Islamists" and "Hinduists" are "right-wing" then we have two right-wings fanatically opposing each other!



In India, there are no left-right divide and only two categories in the political-ideological spectrum - "value-based" and "vacuum-ideology". The values of the "Hinduists" can be diamterically opposite to the "Islamists" - but both work on commitments to some "value-systems". Even parts of the so-called "Left" belong to this "value-based" end. The "vacuum-ideology" is hogged by the so-called "centre-left" - it means total flexibility in trashing any and all value-systems as suits political expediency.



In TSP, in contrast - every political grouping is forced to belong to one or the other variation of a single "value-system". Therefore to outshine each other, they must become more "pure" in adherence to that "value-system". One of the arguments given towards the validity of "tolerant/totally inclusive of the foreign" "Hindu/India" (strangely it was supposed to be intolerantly exclusive in its treatemnet towards supposed oppressed classes within itself) is that it has helped the "Indian/Hindu" civilization to "survive". Look at TSP - it too has survived from an impossible beginning - in spite of cyclical waves of conviction from generations of "tolerant/inclusive/anti-bigot" Hindu-Indians that TSP was "soon" going to "implode".



TSP is managing to survive, extract "peace-tax" from the world and its neighbours, has joined the nuke owners club, and has uccessfully tied up a super-power's military in its land, and managed to play off rising powers against one another, and has hosted one of the most powerful radical movements after communism - that threatens a whole wide axis of countries and regions across the continents. All, by sticking to its single "value-system". Regular IED mubaraks may be a butt of jokes for us, but it is very much part of the "value-system" by which the foundational theology of that nation lives. We joke about it because we have never studied Islamic history of the ME in all its bare naked glory of violence.



Instead of labeling anything as "right" or "left" and an obnoxious plague, we should treat each ideology separately and see how far it takes a nation and how appropriate it is for that nation to consolidate itself and protect its existence/culture/civilization.
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