02-03-2005, 09:02 PM
Pathma,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Perhaps someone from the sanshtan is visiting this forum after all. :<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cute, but in case you missed the date on the article, Rajesh has pointed it out. Some time ago when someone had pointed a link to a Mahila institute which has been in existence for for over 20 years, you had pooh-poohed it saying an organization here and organization there doesn't add up. How come you guys at Navyashastra don't seem to locate these organizations which are actually doing work on the ground? What kind of support would you guys provide, now that some are taking pain to point it out you? Or do paths to all the 'reforms' and solutions go only via the inbox of the NS subscribers?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->However, I must apologise for not being clear. As you can see, we need to see that all Hindus, men and women, of all races in the world are eligible to become priests and serve in a temple, not just karmakanda rites. And not just any temple but in the Sri Rangams and the Sri Kaalahaatis too. Any Hindu priest should be eligible to just fill a form and apply for a job as a priest in any temple without being discriminated. This is the minimum necessary. (I can see everyone is nodding and agreeing with me. <!--emo&
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Yeah..but the question is what are you doing to actually help them rather than nitckiping on whatever is being done. Or asking 'international pressure' over guys who are actually on the job? Why do I have strange feeling that even if they were to change the course/curriculum to fit your exact needs, you'll come up with something else that doesnât fit your criteria.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->But we had no idea that we would receive such a good response from castes other than Brahmins as well."Â <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->
Finally knowledge is being made available to all. But I wonder why this good doctor is surprised at the response from non brahmins. Perhaps like many others he was out of touch with the people and living in a virtual reality.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A while back some students in US university had organized screening of Hindi movie during cultural show. They were surprised to see American students show up in huge numbers as the movie was in Hindi without any sub-titles. One could say that the show organizers were living in virtual reality no?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many non brahmin Hindus want to serve as priests because of love of the religion, love of the gods and love of the sanskrit traditions and knowledge, and inspite of the miserable wages. This is true love which was unacknowledged till now and it held back our religion for so long<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Question: If I'm "<i>non brahmin Hindu (don't rule out this possibility by assuming too much) want to serve as priests because of love of the religion, love of the gods and love of the sanskrit traditions and knowledge, and inspite of the miserable wages</i>" whose permission should I seek to read, learn or understand any Hindu scripture or Sanskrit traditions or rituals? Who should I complain against <i>holding back the religion</i> from me?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> am sorry again I was misunderstood. International pressure is to get India to enforce its own human rights laws, free the nationalised temples and remove the job reservations. This has not happened yet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You have statements from your own NS chairman on how co-operative a section of society is on giving up reservations or objecting to reforms. I don't see any temple or preist or Hindu books or traditions imposing job related reservations or quotas. It's our politicians and the context under which you are addressing it should be considered when making such a statement.
Also, during the seer arrest discussion, you had expressed your utmost confidence with regards to efficiency and fair play of the Indian justice and legal system. So why not appeal those directly in the powers be say in Chennai or New Delhi and have them implement the law of the land. Why go to 'international pressure' or 'world courts'? Selective cherry picking?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Perhaps someone from the sanshtan is visiting this forum after all. :<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cute, but in case you missed the date on the article, Rajesh has pointed it out. Some time ago when someone had pointed a link to a Mahila institute which has been in existence for for over 20 years, you had pooh-poohed it saying an organization here and organization there doesn't add up. How come you guys at Navyashastra don't seem to locate these organizations which are actually doing work on the ground? What kind of support would you guys provide, now that some are taking pain to point it out you? Or do paths to all the 'reforms' and solutions go only via the inbox of the NS subscribers?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->However, I must apologise for not being clear. As you can see, we need to see that all Hindus, men and women, of all races in the world are eligible to become priests and serve in a temple, not just karmakanda rites. And not just any temple but in the Sri Rangams and the Sri Kaalahaatis too. Any Hindu priest should be eligible to just fill a form and apply for a job as a priest in any temple without being discriminated. This is the minimum necessary. (I can see everyone is nodding and agreeing with me. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> )<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yeah..but the question is what are you doing to actually help them rather than nitckiping on whatever is being done. Or asking 'international pressure' over guys who are actually on the job? Why do I have strange feeling that even if they were to change the course/curriculum to fit your exact needs, you'll come up with something else that doesnât fit your criteria.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->But we had no idea that we would receive such a good response from castes other than Brahmins as well."Â <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->
Finally knowledge is being made available to all. But I wonder why this good doctor is surprised at the response from non brahmins. Perhaps like many others he was out of touch with the people and living in a virtual reality.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A while back some students in US university had organized screening of Hindi movie during cultural show. They were surprised to see American students show up in huge numbers as the movie was in Hindi without any sub-titles. One could say that the show organizers were living in virtual reality no?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many non brahmin Hindus want to serve as priests because of love of the religion, love of the gods and love of the sanskrit traditions and knowledge, and inspite of the miserable wages. This is true love which was unacknowledged till now and it held back our religion for so long<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Question: If I'm "<i>non brahmin Hindu (don't rule out this possibility by assuming too much) want to serve as priests because of love of the religion, love of the gods and love of the sanskrit traditions and knowledge, and inspite of the miserable wages</i>" whose permission should I seek to read, learn or understand any Hindu scripture or Sanskrit traditions or rituals? Who should I complain against <i>holding back the religion</i> from me?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> am sorry again I was misunderstood. International pressure is to get India to enforce its own human rights laws, free the nationalised temples and remove the job reservations. This has not happened yet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You have statements from your own NS chairman on how co-operative a section of society is on giving up reservations or objecting to reforms. I don't see any temple or preist or Hindu books or traditions imposing job related reservations or quotas. It's our politicians and the context under which you are addressing it should be considered when making such a statement.
Also, during the seer arrest discussion, you had expressed your utmost confidence with regards to efficiency and fair play of the Indian justice and legal system. So why not appeal those directly in the powers be say in Chennai or New Delhi and have them implement the law of the land. Why go to 'international pressure' or 'world courts'? Selective cherry picking?