Two funny - and all true - news articles on the 'holy' catholic church.
1. News snippet on the right side of Guardian news article:
That goes to:
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/05/nun-cured-pope-parkinsons-ill
2. Predictable but nevertheless hysterical.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/04/vatican-gay-sex-scandal
via http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/03/w...-pals.html
One notes that the same old reasoning behind appointing Papal hierarchy is still in effect in the Vatican. E.g. from the 16th century:
http://freetruth.50webs.org/C2b.htm
(and Papal impropriety)
Homosexuality in the Vatican and the churches of christendom as at the 11th century:
And then, in a later century, there was Pope Leo X who is known as IIRC the "gay pope", though there were others who fit that title. Moreover, I think Leo X sounds like yet another papal paedophile instead, since the following mentions "boys", not men:
1. News snippet on the right side of Guardian news article:
Quote:Nun 'cured' by Pope reported ill again
[color="#0000FF"]John Paul II's beatification in jeopardy[/color] after reports that 'miracle' sister's Parkinson's disease has returned
That goes to:
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/05/nun-cured-pope-parkinsons-ill
Quote:Pope's sainthood setback after 'miracle cure' nun reported to be ill againFalse religion breeds infinite number of fake relics and miracle hoaxes. Not surprising, when even their main claim (jeebus) never existed.
Hopes John Paul's canonisation would be fast-tracked by Sister Marie Simon-Pierre's recovery from Parkinson's receive set back
Sister Marie Simon-Pierre claimed she was cured of Parkinson's by the then recently deceased Pope John Paul II Photograph: Paolo Cocco/AFP/Getty Images
It was the miracle that set Pope John Paul II on the road to sainthood and provided faithful followers with proof of his holy powers. But hopes that the former pope's canonisation would be fast-tracked by Sister Marie Simon-Pierre's recovery from Parkinson's disease have been set back by reports that the French nun has fallen ill again.
[color="#0000FF"]Simon-Pierre described three years ago how she regained her health after a night of prayer to the then recently deceased Polish pontiff. John Paul also suffered from Parkinson's disease, which is incurable.[/color]
[color="#800080"](Please. He supposedly cured her of a disease when dead which he couldn't cure himself of when living? And catholics believe all this nonsense? The only miracle here is the depths of christian stupidity...)[/color]
"It's like a second birth," she said at the time. "I feel like I've discovered a new body, new limbs."
[color="#800080"](aka the "It's a miracle!" slogan)[/color]
In 2007 Simon-Pierre could barely move her left side, could not write legibly, drive or move around easily and was in constant pain.
Her disease worsened after the pope's death, and her order prayed for his intervention to ease her suffering. Then after writing his name on a paper one night, she woke up the next day apparently cured and returned to work as a maternity nurse with no traces of the disease.
[color="#0000FF"]But according to the Polish daily newspaper Rzeczpospolita, one of the doctors charged with scrutinising the nun's case believed she might have been suffering from a similar nervous disease, not Parkinson's, which could go into sudden remission. A report on the paper's website went further, saying that the 49-year-old nun had become sick again with the same illness.[/color]
[color="#800080"](So it's some other disease. And there's instances of remission. Nothing miraculous about her temporary 'recovery' then.)[/color]
The Vatican was making no comment on the grounds that the late pope's case was still under examination.
Although no date has been fixed for the late pope's beatification, there had been an expectation that it would be announced in mid-October. His case was fast-tracked by his successor, Pope Benedict, and the anniversary of John Paul's election falls on 16 October.
[color="#800080"](<img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
Guess that means it's time to manufacture another JPII miracle in order to still make the mid-Oct deadline. I'm sure some lying Indian cannibal sheep will oblige and go on record with an "It's a miracle!" declaration. Maybe Suzanna Margaret 'Arundati' Roy or John Dayal - both used to lying in public - will perjure themselves for the christian cause yet again by offering themselves as personal witnesses to JPII's spook doing some hocus-pocus 'miracle' on them? I don't know, maybe by giving Roy some writing talent and Dayal a brain. <- But mustn't ask for the moon, only miracles. Ooooh, oooh, oooh, I know: a faithful could resurrect AP's christian tyrant Samuel Reddy and declare "JPII did it." Easier to accomplish than giving Suzanna Roy talent etc.)[/color]
The first sign that all might not be as it should be came when the Vatican fixed the canonisation of six new saints for the following day, a Sunday, making a beatification the same weekend impossible.
Vatican sources stressed that the panel of doctors which will examine the evidence relating to Simon-Pierre's recovery was not due to meet until April, when it will consider a report by two medical experts.
Beatification is an intermediate step on the road to canonisation, though not all of those declared "blessed" go on to become saints. Beatification requires at least one miracle. A second is needed for sainthood.
[color="#800080"](Wasn't the requirement 3 miracles for sainthood...? Am I imagining again <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> or have they reduced it by one now merely to get more sainted ASAP?
Anyway: Too bad for JPII, those puppeteering him posthumously have to start all over again.)[/color]
The Vatican, whose congregation [department] for the cause of saints deals with canonisations and beatifications, has been under relentless pressure to speed up John Paul's progress. On the day of his funeral in 2005 there were unparalleled scenes in St Peter's Square, when the crowd took up a chant of "santo subito", or "saint straightaway".
2. Predictable but nevertheless hysterical.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/04/vatican-gay-sex-scandal
via http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/03/w...-pals.html
Quote:Vatican hit by gay sex scandalDon't know why we persist in misspelling "hypocrisy", when it should obviously be spelled "catholicism" or "christianism". Didn't the catholic church publicly declare an intended purge of gay priests in various countries some years back? And now the Vatican wants leaks about its private gay orgies on its own premises hushed up.
[color="#FF0000"]Vatican chorister sacked for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for papal gentleman-in-waiting[/color]
John Hooper in Rome
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 4 March 2010 19.59 GMT
Article history
Pope Benedict XVI greets cardinals in the Clementine Hall at the Vatican. Photograph: Max Rossi/AFP/Getty Images
The Vatican was today rocked by a sex scandal reaching into Pope Benedict's household after a chorister was sacked for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for a papal gentleman-in-waiting.
Angelo Balducci, a Gentleman of His Holiness, was caught by police on a wiretap allegedly negotiating with Thomas Chinedu Ehiem, a 29-year-old Vatican chorister, over the specific physical details of men he wanted brought to him. Transcripts in the possession of the Guardian suggest that [color="#0000FF"]numerous men may have been procured for Balducci, at least one of whom was studying for the priesthood.[/color]
The explosive claims about Balducci's private life have caused grave embarrassment to the Vatican, which has yet to publicly comment on the affair.
While Catholicism does not condemn homosexuality outright, its teaching is that homosexual acts "are intrinsically disordered". The Catechism of the Catholic church states unequivocally: "Under no circumstances can they be approved."
Balducci was arrested on 10 February, suspected of involvement in widespread corruption. [color="#FF0000"]A senior Italian government official[/color], he is alleged to have to steered public works contracts towards favoured bidders. He has not been charged.
It was during this investigation into corruption that wiretaps revealed his alleged sexual activity. In one conversation, Ehiem tells Balducci: "I saw your call when I was in the Vatican, because I was doing rehearsals ââ¬Â¦ in the choir ââ¬Â¦ in St Peter's." He then suggests Balducci meet a man who he describes is "two metres tall ââ¬Â¦ 97 kilos ââ¬Â¦ aged 33, completely active."
[size="6"]Balducci is also a senior adviser to the [color="#0000FF"]Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples[/color], the department that oversees the Roman Catholic church's worldwide missionary activities.[/size]
[color="#800080"](By any chance procuring converted foreign males for the activities of the papal household such as Balducci's own?)[/color]
Since 1995, he has been a member of one of the world's most exclusive fraternities ââ¬â the Gentlemen of His Holiness, or Papal Gentlemen, the ceremonial ushers of the papal household. In the words of a 1968 ordinance, they are expected to "distinguish themselves for the good of souls and the glory of the name of the Lord".
According to a report by the Carabinieri for prosecutors in Florence investigating the corruption scandal, there was a hidden side to Balducci's life. "In order to organise casual encounters of a sexual nature, he availed himself of the intercession of two individuals who, it is maintained, may form part of an organised network, especially active in [Rome], of exploiters or at least facilitators of male prostitution."
[color="#0000FF"]It named one as Ehiem, a professional chorister born in Nigeria. According to Italian press reports, Ehiem, a member of the choir that sings in St Peters when the pope is not officiating, lost his job on Wednesday after details of the Florence investigation became known to the Vatican.[/color]
In an interview to be published tomorrow by the news magazine Panorama, Ehiem said he [color="#0000FF"]had been introduced to Balducci more than 10 years ago.[/color] He claims: "He asked me if I could procure [color="#0000FF"]other[/color] men for him. He told me he was [color="#0000FF"]married[/color] and that I had to do it in great secrecy."
[color="#800080"]("other": that would mean Ehiem himself was one of those earlier approached by Balducci)[/color]
There were conflicting accounts of how the Vatican might respond. According to one source, there was no provision for the dismissal of a Gentleman of His Holiness. Another said: "We shall wait for the judiciary's definitive verdict."
[color="#800080"](Like how paedophile priests can't get excommunicated by the 'holy' church - because: once a catholic priest always a catholic priest, as per the church's own religious rules.)[/color]
The transcripts imply that over a period of around five months in 2008, Ehiem procured for Balducci at least 10 contacts with, among others, [color="#FF0000"]"two black Cuban lads"[/color], a former male model from Naples, and a rugby player from Rome.
[color="#800080"](See the advantages for catholicism of missionising the world? And who said the Vatican is still racist? It's now got a taste for "ethnic" men too. Eeeeewwwww. Isn't it Scary?)[/color]
Balducci's lawyer, Franco Coppi, said tonight: "I have no comment. First, because we have more serious questions to tackle. Second, if these claims are correct, they regard his private life. It is disgraceful that these transcripts, which have nothing to do with the case, should have been spread about."
[color="#800080"]("How dare you reveal the seedy truth about Papal Gentlemen? It's the Vatican's private orgy ... I mean private communion with christ.")[/color]
In January this year, the Carabinieri [color="#0000FF"]recorded an exchange in which Balducci and Ehiem discuss a seminarian, or student for the priesthood. Balducci is said to have asked: "Listen, have you spoken with the seminarian by any chance?" Ehiem says he is "probably at mass or something". On 11 January, Ehiem calls again to recommend "a colleague, a friend" of the seminarian because the latter is unavailable. He says the colleague is "better, taller, a bit taller than you". Later, Ehiem asks: "Can I send [him] around straight away?"[/color]
He asks where Balducci is. The adviser says: "Up at the seminary ââ¬Â¦ [color="#0000FF"]where the cardinal lives.[/color]" Ehiem replies: "He could get there within half an hour ââ¬Â¦ the time it takes to catch a taxi and get there."
One notes that the same old reasoning behind appointing Papal hierarchy is still in effect in the Vatican. E.g. from the 16th century:
http://freetruth.50webs.org/C2b.htm
(and Papal impropriety)
Quote:JULIUS III 1550-1555 Pope Julius III, like other Popes before him, was also a paedophile. He abused young boys, of which one was his own illegitimate son and another was his adopted son Innocenzo del Monte, whom he had picked up in the streets of Palma. This caused a grave scandal especially when Julius made the 17-year-old Innocenzo first a cardinal and then head of the Secretariat of State.
Besides Innocenzo, he also appointed several other handsome teenage boys as cardinals. Cardinal della Casa's famous poem In Praise of Sodomy was dedicated to his Holiness, Pope Julius III.
Homosexuality in the Vatican and the churches of christendom as at the 11th century:
Quote:LEO IX 1049-1054 A gay supporter (although this is a good thing, it isn't for a Catholic Pope). When St Peter Damian, church reformer and author of a book railing against homosexuality, wanted Leo IX to expel homosexuals from the clergy, Leo flatly refused. [color="#0000FF"]Sex Lives of the Popes states the following about this: "If he got rid of the gays, perhaps he feared he would have had no one left".[/color]
[...]
And then, in a later century, there was Pope Leo X who is known as IIRC the "gay pope", though there were others who fit that title. Moreover, I think Leo X sounds like yet another papal paedophile instead, since the following mentions "boys", not men:
Quote:LEO X 1513-1521 "How much we have profited by the legend of Christ" - Leo X, in a position to know.
He embarked on a Papal life of unimaginable extravagance, indulging in expensive carnivals, bull-fights, banquets, theatrical performances and the like. Like many of his Papal predecessors, he was also widely known to have had illicit relations with boys. [...]
Death to traitors.

