Post #21
2. You're making serious allegations here. As usual: either give documentation - references - or else you give no one any reason to accept your statements.
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']I remember reading that in the later years, lots of sex scandals involving buddhist monks and buddhist nuns[/quote]Again: documentation? (Yes, there *is* documentation for this, from legit/unmotivated sources. But when you make many an unverifiable claim, I have to wonder: do you actually have any - esp. reliable - data to back you up?
Also, I doubt that this is something inherently *Buddhist*. Or that it is universal among Buddhist orders. So such data must be qualified.
The matter is very different from christianism.)
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']left-hand practises[/quote]I doubt heathens need atheists/agnostics - who don't know religion (heathenism) or what it is to actually be one (heathen) - to lecture them on religion.
Besides those are *Hindu* practises of the North-East. Not originally Buddhist.
(So you are actually attacking "Hindoooism", just so you know.)
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']Thats why I hate these swaminis who go celibate instead of breeding 5[/quote]Good grief. Not that again.
Others' celibacy is up to them. Hindu swamis' celibacy is up to Hindu swamis. They pursue their chosen path for reasons known to and understood by them.
People who don't understand the heathen reasoning of legitimate sannyasis, and who use fake 'swamis' as an opportunity to attack the sannyasi state for the sake of the socio-political/nationalist purpose of "demographically-targeted 'breeding'" really don't need to comment.
If you want heathens to counter-'breed', then it is for the sake of their heathenism that they must do it. Not for the sake of modern nationalisms and to satisfy modern nationalists who insult heathenism left and right and who expect heathens to abandon their heathenism in order to do so.
The eternal monotheistic tendency.
The Rishis of the Hindu religion married, yes. While sannyasis are celibate, as far as I know. Neither offends the Hindu laity.
Quote:Some years ago, on the internet, I saw a mural of a tibetan buddhist monastery, which had a picture of Ganesha, [...]1. Why don't you spare people the graphic language, yeah? E.g. if you *must* mention such a matter involving Hindus' Gods, then why don't you refer to it with the italian-origin term so that at least some of the visitors can still be free of the unwanted graphic nature of your vivid terminology.
2. You're making serious allegations here. As usual: either give documentation - references - or else you give no one any reason to accept your statements.
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']I remember reading that in the later years, lots of sex scandals involving buddhist monks and buddhist nuns[/quote]Again: documentation? (Yes, there *is* documentation for this, from legit/unmotivated sources. But when you make many an unverifiable claim, I have to wonder: do you actually have any - esp. reliable - data to back you up?
Also, I doubt that this is something inherently *Buddhist*. Or that it is universal among Buddhist orders. So such data must be qualified.
The matter is very different from christianism.)
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']left-hand practises[/quote]I doubt heathens need atheists/agnostics - who don't know religion (heathenism) or what it is to actually be one (heathen) - to lecture them on religion.
Besides those are *Hindu* practises of the North-East. Not originally Buddhist.
(So you are actually attacking "Hindoooism", just so you know.)
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='12 May 2010 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1273636949' post='106336']Thats why I hate these swaminis who go celibate instead of breeding 5[/quote]Good grief. Not that again.
Others' celibacy is up to them. Hindu swamis' celibacy is up to Hindu swamis. They pursue their chosen path for reasons known to and understood by them.
People who don't understand the heathen reasoning of legitimate sannyasis, and who use fake 'swamis' as an opportunity to attack the sannyasi state for the sake of the socio-political/nationalist purpose of "demographically-targeted 'breeding'" really don't need to comment.
If you want heathens to counter-'breed', then it is for the sake of their heathenism that they must do it. Not for the sake of modern nationalisms and to satisfy modern nationalists who insult heathenism left and right and who expect heathens to abandon their heathenism in order to do so.
The eternal monotheistic tendency.
The Rishis of the Hindu religion married, yes. While sannyasis are celibate, as far as I know. Neither offends the Hindu laity.