Removing The Sheen From Buddhism

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Following was posted by abhishekcc in BRF

My first reaction on reading Sukhothai's post was TF, why is he talking about religion in an economic thread? But he deserves a fitting reply after abusing Hinduism.



I consider Buddhism as an ill formed, incomplete religion. Look at the four cardinal truths of Buddhism:

1. There is suffering

2. The root of suffering is attachment

3. It is possible to end suffering

4. The eight fold path is the way to end suffering.



1. The first cardinal truth is the biggest lie, and the foundation of the manipulation in the other 'truths'.

There is both suffering AND pleasure in the world. When Siddhartha Gautam (SG) mentions only suffering, he is PREYING on the sorrows and disappointments that all human beings face in their lives.By failing to mention pleasure, he is not being honest with his audience.



2. The second truth is somewhat honest, but it is a half truth at best. Attachment is not only the basis of paiin, but also pleasure and success. Attachment is the reason we fight for our families, our country, our friends and our values.

The correct thing to say is that attachment with sensory perception is the cause of suffering AND pleasure, both failure AND success.

Why this small distinction is necessary will become clear in the next point.



3. The third truth is again misleading in its intention. It is effectively trying to seduce into believing that suffering of sensory variety is going to end. It does not tell people that even pleasure will end. SG is lying again. He should have made clear that detachment from sensory allusions make both pain and pleasure immeasurably small and irrelevant.



4. The last cardinal 'truth' leads to the singh, dhamma, and buddha - IOW Sangham Sharanam Gachchami, etc, etc.

But here also, he pulled a fast one on the world. He first asked people to stop worshipping all the gods, etc, etc. Then he asserted that the path to salvation is by surrendering to him. WTF. All he wanted to do was remove other gods and become god himself. THis is ridiculous.





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Buddhism does not practice non-violence. It practices violence of a very refined AND hypocritical variety. They claim not to hurt anyone and practice karuna towards all. But why do they do the Kalchakra poojan every 6 years? It is meant for the destruction of Islam. Kalchakra poojan has PERVERTED the practice of Shree vidya, the most creative vidya is now being used for destruction. All the pain and suffering you see in the entire planet today is a result of that creative energy getting perverted. The creative energy that sustains life on this planet is being abused by a bunch of parasitic monks who do nothing and still can afford the best of clothes, vehicles, homes (and women).



And even when Buddhists pray for the destruction of Islam, they are such hypocrites that they will not pick up arms themselves. They expect others (Hindus) to die for them.

This one is posted by Purush:

Sukhothai wrote:

Why did the Chinese not follow Hinduism but follow Buddhism.

The obvious answer is that they're civilizationally too dumb to understand the intricacies and the depth of the philosophy of Hinduism. They have been conditioned for much of their civilizational existence to unconditionally following orders. They need an easy to follow, nicely compiled bullet point list of religious Dos and Don'ts. There is no scope in their civilization for independent thought or philosophy (That's so very clear even in modern day china..look at how enthusiastically the cultural revolution was executed lol). Buddhism as well as the Abrahamic religions do that gig very well. No wonder the Western religions are expanding like crazy in China and Korea.



And thanks for adding Chipanda to the 'Buddhist list'...I was unsure whether it really fits in...but you seem to think so, and their history of brutality and violence reinforces my point that they have a Borg mentality with an innate propensity for organized violence.



BTW, what's wrong with painting all those violent fruitcakes in the East as 'Buddhists'. If you can label the Maoist twats as 'disgruntled' Hindus, I can do the same for the Khmer Rouge, JVP, CPC and other assorted weirdos and link them to Buddhism.



And Buddhism itself is fragmented ...ever heard of the Hinayana and Mahayana schools? All religions are fragmented..protestant/mormon/sunni/shia/catholic/blah blah. Probably the only exception is the Baha'i faith.



Take this to some other thread if you don't want to get lathicharged by the admins.

I am not wasting anymore time on responding to your bullpakistan....nothing we haven't seen or heard before here.

This one is posted by derkonig

Buddha is *not* an avatar of Vishnu. Shri Vishnu advocated the importance of duty or dharma, Buddha was someone who ran away from his troubles. He deserted his wife & infant child & is therefore not looked upon too well in Hinduism and is not worthy of emulation.

Secondly, I would like to know from the PRC drone who seems to be so very convinced about the glory of buddhism, why has it disappeared from china? Why is the common chinese spiritually bankrupt? Why has the chinese society returned back to its feral state where the ethnic han preys upon other hans and they together prey upon the ethnic minorities like the Tibetans?



Fact is that the chinese were barbarians before buddhism came to their land. They could the not come up with any indigenous religion/spiritual system (confucianism is a steaming pile of dung & hence does not count) and had to wait for buddhism to civilize them, now that buddhism has been crushed in china, the chinese are again back to being the barbarians that they truly are.