07-20-2010, 12:19 AM
[quote name='Husky' date='19 July 2010 - 08:31 PM' timestamp='1279551209' post='107523']
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As for your presenting ISKCON's view on Shiva, it is not complete. The full opinion (as also on Uma, Saraswati etc) can be found in the founder's "BG As It Is", for instance. Okay fine, examples. See his commentary ("purport" section) to "text 21" (I think they mean shloka 21) of chapter 7, his commentary to chapter 10 "text 42", etc.
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Ive check my romanian version of BG as it is.That chapters indeed talk about demigods.
Im sure they use the word demigods because english dont have separate words for Bhagavan and Devas.
A confusion between God and Gods is possible in english.Because they cant say something like SuperGod,that will sound weird.
In romanian is easy distinguishable because are different words for God-Dumnezeu(Domine et Deus)and Gods-Zeu,Zei.Yet even here they use the word semi-zei(demi-gods)despite the fact that the simple zei(gods) will be sufficient.
Now ,what iskconites believe in simple terms.
Persons whit infinite power(allpowerfull)-Krishna,Radharani,Balaram,Vishnu,Shiva and so one.
Persons whit limited power-Brahma,Husky,Romani and so one.
There are an infinite number of persons but the Source of all power(infinite or limited) is Krishna.
Shiva is allpowerfull but he have his infinite power from Krishna.
If i prey to god Husky to walk on the Moon,he will not be able to fulfill my wish.If i prey to Brahma,he will have the power to fulfill this.
If i prey to god Brahma to go in the spiritual world ,he will not be able to fulfill my wish. If i prey to Krishna ,he wil have the power to do this.
I hope i clarify what iskconites believe about Shiva.Shiva is infinite,but the Source is Krishna.
But dont read iskcon books,read Bhagavata Purana and Vishnu Purana and you will see the same teachings about Shiva.
O
As for your presenting ISKCON's view on Shiva, it is not complete. The full opinion (as also on Uma, Saraswati etc) can be found in the founder's "BG As It Is", for instance. Okay fine, examples. See his commentary ("purport" section) to "text 21" (I think they mean shloka 21) of chapter 7, his commentary to chapter 10 "text 42", etc.
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Ive check my romanian version of BG as it is.That chapters indeed talk about demigods.
Im sure they use the word demigods because english dont have separate words for Bhagavan and Devas.
A confusion between God and Gods is possible in english.Because they cant say something like SuperGod,that will sound weird.
In romanian is easy distinguishable because are different words for God-Dumnezeu(Domine et Deus)and Gods-Zeu,Zei.Yet even here they use the word semi-zei(demi-gods)despite the fact that the simple zei(gods) will be sufficient.
Now ,what iskconites believe in simple terms.
Persons whit infinite power(allpowerfull)-Krishna,Radharani,Balaram,Vishnu,Shiva and so one.
Persons whit limited power-Brahma,Husky,Romani and so one.
There are an infinite number of persons but the Source of all power(infinite or limited) is Krishna.
Shiva is allpowerfull but he have his infinite power from Krishna.
If i prey to god Husky to walk on the Moon,he will not be able to fulfill my wish.If i prey to Brahma,he will have the power to fulfill this.
If i prey to god Brahma to go in the spiritual world ,he will not be able to fulfill my wish. If i prey to Krishna ,he wil have the power to do this.
I hope i clarify what iskconites believe about Shiva.Shiva is infinite,but the Source is Krishna.
But dont read iskcon books,read Bhagavata Purana and Vishnu Purana and you will see the same teachings about Shiva.