1. ^ Oh no, No. Not the usual Musical Chairs Dance of "I'm not gay, I'm not gay. Has everyone got that I'm not gay already?" type strenuous objections that only the insecure among hetero males do. (See textbook example case above.) Complete with reverse projection onto other people (same as with the earlier absurd "diaper" statement) - it can only make people think you protest a bit too much.
But, Cheese Piece, even if I *had* been a gay man, I'm sure reading your spastic vapidity would have turned me straight already. You may want to cross your fingers that you can refrain from oozing this anti-appeal of yours onto the very unfortunate women who may wander your way.
Hmmm. Your case just reminded me of the amusing opposite effect I once read of, which that brilliantly entertaining actor Takeshi Kaneshiro had on someone. Let's see if I can dig it out from the web. Yes here. It's some person commenting on the lovely combination of the dashing Kaneshiro and the glorious Zhang Ziyi in House of Flying Daggers:
http://homecinema.thedigitalfix.co.uk/co...mentpage=2
Though it comes as no surprise to learn that Kaneshiro has all the women after him (he is so infuriatingly goodlooking and likeable - and *very* cool, even in the OTT hysteria of Ritanaaaa), but I predict the dude who wrote the comment above would be very popular with a great many of the female persuasion for his natural likeableness in stating something so hysterical (but not an insincere compliment) as the above in his review.
(So deeply different from Agnivayu et al of the dreary Loser Club and their childish whining of "I'm not gay. I'm not gay. You're gay! Everyone else is gay!")
What's that? No! Not yet another post of your whining above that! Ugh, let's go then. "58"? Uh, isn't that somewhere around the age my dad's at? (I only claimed a grand, exalted and respectable ancientry for myself. Not the *Pleiocene*.) And that makes your blundering guess but yet another example of your hopeless telepathy/how you're always wrong. (Maybe you should stop tripping over yourself with your bad guessing games - it's only exposing more of your unreliability.)
Oh I give up with your incessant error-prone whining and whinging. I really should stop encouraging more of your repeat response. Besides, it's not like I've ever read you say anything sensible let alone anything funny (even more criminal) - and I'm not even getting paid for it.
2. And yet More Romani:
So where are we at now? You have variously claimed I was an Advaitin. A Smarta. Doing some "Folk religion". A something something. Then an animist. Now mimamsa-minded human.
When will it all end? Never. Because you can't stop your christo-conditioning. It's a permanent part of you. You can't shake it.
Simple: did the snake and monkey of the Hindooism thread (the ones with their Shiva and Rama moorties) - or rather their ancestors - get indoctrinated into being "mimamsa minded" in your convenient period that your "experts call the synthetic hinduism period(200-1200 AD)"? Hmmm?
Whatever the actual answer, it is the same for the human Hindus I know.
Oh, and you do know that Vedas, homams, yagnyas - and those who carry them out - are older than 200-1200AD right? And that that part of Hindooo religion has been going on unbroken as well?
Predates Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc.
It's of no moment if your textbooks and "experts" don't say so.
(BTW Yoga is a major practice of various Hindu religious ways of life on the ground.)
Clearly you know of little else of the rest of the Hindoo religion. Again, it's reminiscent of western people reading the Tao Te Ching and declaring "That Is (All There Is To) Daoism". <- The analogy of that similar situation is always so relevant and a very important one.
But Romani, I suggest you stop condescending on Hindus and pretending you know more than actual Hindus. The rest of us here and elsewhere are born and raised Hindu. We know our religion (first-hand), yeah? Not you.
You have so far demonstrated you can only Textbook (moreover, western or otherwise foreign-language Textbook) and parrot ISKCON.
I predict you will never know Hindu religion, but that you will certainly feel you "know" it. (Again: western dabblers in "Taoism" come to mind.)
It's always so very different talking to E Asian traditionalists. Now why IS that. Oh yeah, because they're not christoconditioned, but actual heathens - through-and-through. Christoconditioning doesn't compute to them: they are incapable of thinking in christoconditioned ways. Full-on heathens are so very refreshing.
And they never encroach on one's religion (oh how I wish Hindus would learn from the declaration which the Nakota/Lakota/Dakota wisely delivered), and they certainly never pretend they know better than one knows about one's own religion. (And yet they understand it so well. Not really a mystery: other traditional "heathens" of unbroken heathen lineage actually understand Hindoooism, because they know their own religion.)
But seeing as how you like lecturing so much, I suggest you go lecture that Cobra doing Shivalinga pooja (see the Hindooism thread). Surely it will take kindly to your interference on what "Hinduism" is and your "suggestions"? No? Am I wrong?
But I'm certain it prefers dialogue on "Hindoooism" far more than I do.
Anyway -
This thread's been so totally derailed. Though I didn't start the derailment, I am still 1/3rd to blame, so I'll try and make up for it by being helpful -
For any poor person out there trying to work out where the last sensible (and on-topic) posts were: they go upto somewhere on page 3
But, Cheese Piece, even if I *had* been a gay man, I'm sure reading your spastic vapidity would have turned me straight already. You may want to cross your fingers that you can refrain from oozing this anti-appeal of yours onto the very unfortunate women who may wander your way.
Hmmm. Your case just reminded me of the amusing opposite effect I once read of, which that brilliantly entertaining actor Takeshi Kaneshiro had on someone. Let's see if I can dig it out from the web. Yes here. It's some person commenting on the lovely combination of the dashing Kaneshiro and the glorious Zhang Ziyi in House of Flying Daggers:
http://homecinema.thedigitalfix.co.uk/co...mentpage=2
Quote:The acting was uniformly excellent, Andy Lau surprised me yet again (and I thought he looked really awkward and out of place in the trailers); I thought Zhang Ziyi was fantastic, but I'd watch her do anything; and despite being 100% heterosexual, Takeshi Kaneshiro is so good looking I almost doubted myself for a second <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='My memory was right: that last line is *still* hysterisch. Dude is so funny.' />.
Though it comes as no surprise to learn that Kaneshiro has all the women after him (he is so infuriatingly goodlooking and likeable - and *very* cool, even in the OTT hysteria of Ritanaaaa), but I predict the dude who wrote the comment above would be very popular with a great many of the female persuasion for his natural likeableness in stating something so hysterical (but not an insincere compliment) as the above in his review.
(So deeply different from Agnivayu et al of the dreary Loser Club and their childish whining of "I'm not gay. I'm not gay. You're gay! Everyone else is gay!")
What's that? No! Not yet another post of your whining above that! Ugh, let's go then. "58"? Uh, isn't that somewhere around the age my dad's at? (I only claimed a grand, exalted and respectable ancientry for myself. Not the *Pleiocene*.) And that makes your blundering guess but yet another example of your hopeless telepathy/how you're always wrong. (Maybe you should stop tripping over yourself with your bad guessing games - it's only exposing more of your unreliability.)
Oh I give up with your incessant error-prone whining and whinging. I really should stop encouraging more of your repeat response. Besides, it's not like I've ever read you say anything sensible let alone anything funny (even more criminal) - and I'm not even getting paid for it.
2. And yet More Romani:
Quote:I guess you are more a mimansa-minded human so to speak.There you go again. You really can't control yourself, can you.
So where are we at now? You have variously claimed I was an Advaitin. A Smarta. Doing some "Folk religion". A something something. Then an animist. Now mimamsa-minded human.
When will it all end? Never. Because you can't stop your christo-conditioning. It's a permanent part of you. You can't shake it.
Simple: did the snake and monkey of the Hindooism thread (the ones with their Shiva and Rama moorties) - or rather their ancestors - get indoctrinated into being "mimamsa minded" in your convenient period that your "experts call the synthetic hinduism period(200-1200 AD)"? Hmmm?
Whatever the actual answer, it is the same for the human Hindus I know.
Oh, and you do know that Vedas, homams, yagnyas - and those who carry them out - are older than 200-1200AD right? And that that part of Hindooo religion has been going on unbroken as well?
Predates Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc.
It's of no moment if your textbooks and "experts" don't say so.
Quote:There are 6 traditional vedic schoolsYa don't say! Except that everyone already knows of the "6 schools of Indian 'Philosophy'" that are part of the Astika Mathas. Isn't that Textbook Hinduism 101?
(BTW Yoga is a major practice of various Hindu religious ways of life on the ground.)
Clearly you know of little else of the rest of the Hindoo religion. Again, it's reminiscent of western people reading the Tao Te Ching and declaring "That Is (All There Is To) Daoism". <- The analogy of that similar situation is always so relevant and a very important one.
Quote:[...]Good grief. Shankara etc is a mystery to *you* - you, who exclusively depend on textbooks (and Indian movements in the west) to learn about "hindooism".
I suggest to make a little search on this 6 schools and solve the mystery of Shankara.
But Romani, I suggest you stop condescending on Hindus and pretending you know more than actual Hindus. The rest of us here and elsewhere are born and raised Hindu. We know our religion (first-hand), yeah? Not you.
You have so far demonstrated you can only Textbook (moreover, western or otherwise foreign-language Textbook) and parrot ISKCON.
I predict you will never know Hindu religion, but that you will certainly feel you "know" it. (Again: western dabblers in "Taoism" come to mind.)
It's always so very different talking to E Asian traditionalists. Now why IS that. Oh yeah, because they're not christoconditioned, but actual heathens - through-and-through. Christoconditioning doesn't compute to them: they are incapable of thinking in christoconditioned ways. Full-on heathens are so very refreshing.
And they never encroach on one's religion (oh how I wish Hindus would learn from the declaration which the Nakota/Lakota/Dakota wisely delivered), and they certainly never pretend they know better than one knows about one's own religion. (And yet they understand it so well. Not really a mystery: other traditional "heathens" of unbroken heathen lineage actually understand Hindoooism, because they know their own religion.)
But seeing as how you like lecturing so much, I suggest you go lecture that Cobra doing Shivalinga pooja (see the Hindooism thread). Surely it will take kindly to your interference on what "Hinduism" is and your "suggestions"? No? Am I wrong?
But I'm certain it prefers dialogue on "Hindoooism" far more than I do.
Anyway -
This thread's been so totally derailed. Though I didn't start the derailment, I am still 1/3rd to blame, so I'll try and make up for it by being helpful -
For any poor person out there trying to work out where the last sensible (and on-topic) posts were: they go upto somewhere on page 3
Death to traitors.