10-19-2010, 04:51 AM
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='17 October 2010 - 11:54 PM' timestamp='1287377162' post='108936']
Note that BJP gets 75% of the Hindu vote in Hyderabad and 2% elsewhere in Andhra
Agreed Varun is too abrasive, however, there needs to be introspection on why the BJP manages to get 75% of Telegu Hindu vote in Hyderabad, and 2% Telegu Hindu vote elsewhere
The other thing about Deganga is that per Kanchan Gupta article, these Hindus were voting 100% for CPM for decades
and only 2% of Sangh parivar cadres are from West Bengal[/quote]
You have the answer in your post itself.
This is another thing you need to reconsider in analysis. The best you should get is the election result of first greater Hyderabad authority election held about an year ago. BJP got about 4 ( or 7? ) seats out of about 150 seats. MIM,INC and TDP came second and third which were neck to neck.
Yes BJP was a force in the Old city which is almost a muslim majority but that is not a positive "Hindu vote". It is again a takleef based vote against the islmists and it is better to call it as anti-mullah vote rather classify it as hindu vote. The regions where large scale hindus vote actually is a minority-hindu populated seats. My point again is there is no real Hindu-vote bank. It is only when push comes to shove the votebank emerges just for the issue. Once the issues settle down we again are Brahmins, Thakurs, etc.
You clearly have the answer in Deganga and all you need is to extrapolate the psyche. When the Hindus were beaten and thrown out they are Hindus and they want the help of sangh etc., otherwise they are happy to vote the sangh bashers (CPM).
What that tells is it is not the hindu, EJ or Mullah issues but we desperately need to fix two:
(1) Change of current power structure from Gandhis even if it is completely anti-hindu. Bottomline alter the current power structure
(2) Serious electoral reforms so that no one can use either caste or religion division to win elections. May be something like two rounds of elections. The final result has to be a winner from just two candidates.
(3) There got to be an incentive/disincentive based force for the electorate to vote and not sit at home.
What I belive is that a lot of non-puritants in the BJP are working towards those goals. They may not succeed but they have some successes in the ocean of failures.
Note that BJP gets 75% of the Hindu vote in Hyderabad and 2% elsewhere in Andhra
Agreed Varun is too abrasive, however, there needs to be introspection on why the BJP manages to get 75% of Telegu Hindu vote in Hyderabad, and 2% Telegu Hindu vote elsewhere
The other thing about Deganga is that per Kanchan Gupta article, these Hindus were voting 100% for CPM for decades
and only 2% of Sangh parivar cadres are from West Bengal[/quote]
You have the answer in your post itself.
This is another thing you need to reconsider in analysis. The best you should get is the election result of first greater Hyderabad authority election held about an year ago. BJP got about 4 ( or 7? ) seats out of about 150 seats. MIM,INC and TDP came second and third which were neck to neck.
Yes BJP was a force in the Old city which is almost a muslim majority but that is not a positive "Hindu vote". It is again a takleef based vote against the islmists and it is better to call it as anti-mullah vote rather classify it as hindu vote. The regions where large scale hindus vote actually is a minority-hindu populated seats. My point again is there is no real Hindu-vote bank. It is only when push comes to shove the votebank emerges just for the issue. Once the issues settle down we again are Brahmins, Thakurs, etc.
You clearly have the answer in Deganga and all you need is to extrapolate the psyche. When the Hindus were beaten and thrown out they are Hindus and they want the help of sangh etc., otherwise they are happy to vote the sangh bashers (CPM).
What that tells is it is not the hindu, EJ or Mullah issues but we desperately need to fix two:
(1) Change of current power structure from Gandhis even if it is completely anti-hindu. Bottomline alter the current power structure
(2) Serious electoral reforms so that no one can use either caste or religion division to win elections. May be something like two rounds of elections. The final result has to be a winner from just two candidates.
(3) There got to be an incentive/disincentive based force for the electorate to vote and not sit at home.
What I belive is that a lot of non-puritants in the BJP are working towards those goals. They may not succeed but they have some successes in the ocean of failures.