DMK's and AP Target - Hindu Temples

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4. http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...136&SKIN=K

Why is Makara Jyoti being targeted ?

22/01/2011 07:43:17 GSK Menon



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ramadasan

29/01/2011 09:00:55 Atheists are biased

There is every reason to believe that Kerala Yukthi Vadi sangham is a brain child of church agents. Yukthivadi people always target hindus and their faith. They never come across other faiths. They do not dare to question miracles perforemed by kadamattathu kathanr, sain thomas, Alphonsamma and Pentacosts. They never speak about compulsory Sunday prayers and Friday prayers.What is special about Sunday and Friday. Let the Yukthivadis explain?



VAS

27/01/2011 21:24:37 Link between Atheists and Church

I always observe that the so called atheists targets only Hinduism. They never uttered a word against Christinaity and Islam. Now that they are targetting "Makara Jyothy" - but never uttered a word against the fake miracles/things happening in Muringoor/Potta divine centre and Alponsa centre in Bharanamganam. It seems that these atheists are sponsored by church or bribed by them. Beware, hindus....



(Actually, these so-called "atheists, rationalists" are mostly cryptochristians. Just like the communists/maoists/marxists tend to so frequently be christians. Just like dravoodianism including DMK are cryptochristianism.)



Shadananan

25/01/2011 08:59:38 Idiots are ruling

In malayalam there is phrase "vedakkakki thanikkakkuka". Meaning is, spoil a good thing so that every others try to get away from it, then grab it and make it your own.That is the CPM policy in each and every matter.Let it be Education, Health,PSC,PWD,Co-operative Banks,Trusts..or Sabarimala.First they destroys the pleasant atmosphere in that unit so that others are forced to get out of it.Then they grab the unit and make it their own.They are such ugly minded crooked Political Criminals.In 2009 and 2010, Sabarimala season functioned well under the supervision of former President.This year, just before the starting of the season, former President was replaced with a CPM puppet to destroy smooth functioning of Sabarimala Devaswam and to prevent the growth of Sabarimala.I doubt the Pulmedu accident is a planned murder, planned by CPM.[color="#0000FF"](You may recall the event of Parassinikkadavu Snake Park in which CPM workers killed all snakes and animals by setting them on fire.And in seminars they act as saviors of animals and nature!)

(How very christian of them.)[/color]

Parrot: http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...083&SKIN=K

As usual an eagle hovered over the Sabarimala Temple before deeparadhana. Then the Makara Star (Makara Jyoti) appeared on the sky. The appearance of Makaravilakku followed then. Makaravilakku is the light that appears three times in the distant hill at Ponnambala Medu.

No christomedia screeching on how much the Eagle supposedly gets paid to make a regular appearance around the deepaaraadhanam? No one suing the Garudan for "misleading the Hindu public into thronging at the Kovil at this time of year"? (In fact, surprising that no one is yet claiming it's "actually" the labarum flitting across the sky... Where's that bloody consty and his delusions - eusebius tells us so - when you need it?)

Of course, a Hindoo Eagle appears after certain yagnyas have successfully concluded as well (while some yagnyas bring Rains and Other Indicators). After all, this is Shinto ... error... I mean Hindoo religion.



Or maybe the CPM christos - famous for killing our Sarpas and other Hindoo animals - will also try to extinct all Eagles of Bharatam for the unforgivable "Hindu Terror" act of being Hindoo. After all, while certain types of modern-day 'Hindus' (esp. the mis-educated/macaulayised/christo-conditioned) can easily be converted into anything, Hindoo animal species remain Stubborn Hindoos permanently just like the insubvertible Hindoo human animals still extant in Bharatam. And as one knows of christianism's convert-or-kill routine: if conversion doesn't work, only death by genocide can "cure" these animal species of their Hindooooism.





5. http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...118&SKIN=C

Atheist lobby launched Smear campaign Sabarimala

20/01/2011 00:22:02

Smear campaign on against hill shrine

VR Jayaraj | Kochi - Daily Pioneer



The 2010-11 pilgrimage of the famed Lord Ayyappa shrine at Sabarimala in Kerala, which on January 14 witnessed the fourth worst pilgrimage-related disaster in the country, concluded on Wednesday evening even as the atheists’ lobby launched a smear campaign against hill shrine by demanding open admission that the holy Makara Vilakku was artificial and not a celestial occurrence.



The sanctum sanctorum of the temple would close after the brief rituals on Thursday morning but it was effectively closed to pilgrims late Wednesday evening. Only the representative of the Pandalam palace, where Lord Ayyappa was believed to have grown up, would be allowed to have darshan on Thursday.



The shrine had opened for the two-month annual Mandalam-Makara Vilakku pilgrimage on November 16. The shrine had closed on December 27 after the Mandalam Pooja to reopen three days later for the Makara Vilakku festival, which fell on January 14, the day 102 pilgrims were killed in a stampede at Pullumedu, on the way to Sabarimala.



Instead of taking the Government to task for failing to avert the disaster, a lobby of rationalists and materialists has launched a smear campaign against the shrine by saying that the temple authorities themselves were responsible for the tragedy as they had been attracting pilgrims claiming that the Makara Vilakku was a celestial occurrence.

(Amazing isn't it, how these invisibly 'secular' entities descend from all corners on Hinduness, demanding that Hindus stop with their peaceful Hindu practices in their private Hindu Temple lands. Except that there's nothing secular about these entities. It's christianism, incensed against the existence of "paganism" anywhere in the lands claimed for the non-existent jeebusjehovallah famous for commandment #1.)



The ultimate event of the Sabarimala pilgrimage is the sighting of the Makara Jyoti, a star appearing in the eastern horizon and the Makara Vilakku, a flame that flickers thrice at Ponnambalamedu, a distant summit. A minimum of two million pilgrims had reached Sabarimala to view these occurrences on January 14.



The Kerala Yuktivadi Sangham (KYS), a rationalists’ forum, and the pro-CPI(M) Kerala Sasthra Sahithya Parishath (KSSP) argue that the temple authorities have been hiding the fact that the Makara Vilakku is a man-made occurrence in order to attract more and more pilgrims.



The KYS says that it had on several occasions since 1980 come out with pictures of this artificial light being lit by employees of the Travancore Devaswom Board, the body in charge of temple administration, and the Kerala State Electricity Board with the assistance of the police.



The KSSP wants the temple authorities to tell the people that the Makara Vilakku is an artificially made flame so that devotees from other states would have the freedom to decide whether they should undertake such a tedious pilgrimage to see behold it. People are thronging the shrine on the particular day because they think the light is divine, the outfit says.

(Actually, Hindus come to see Bhagavan Ayyappa and everything associated with him. Hindus are supposed to go at that auspicious time when all these sacred events take place: the Star, the distant Deepam, the timely appearance of the Garudan - if they possibly can catch sight of the last -, his Forest, his Hills, the Sacred Steps up to him. And of course, the Centre of it all: their beloved Father, attired in his sacred gear and in full alankaaram.

Because *all* these things are part of his Mandiram and known to be part of his worship: the Vilakku is considered like an outdoors Deepaaraadhanam.)



Nalinakshan Nair, former Devaswom Commissioner, said that he knew the people who used to create the flame at Ponnambalamedu but he did not want to reveal their identity. According to Rahul Easwar, a member of the Thazhamon family of priests who oversee the spiritual affairs of the temple, Makara Vilakku was being lit by Malayarayas, an Adivasi tribe.



However, Tantri Kantararu Rajeevaru, the traditional chief priest of the temple, refused to be dragged into the controversy. “Has anyone said that this is not artificial?” he asked the media. “The controversy is unnecessary. This (flame) is part of worship and it is approved by all. I don’t want to say anything more than that,” he said.

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samanwaya

20/01/2011 12:51:51 Makara Jyothi & Vilakku, controversies are created by misinformed people.

Makara Jyothi & Vilakku

citing the difference between Makara Jyothi & Makara Vilakku in Sabarimala. Makara jyothi is the star that appears in sky and makara vilakku is the symbolic lighting of lamp in ponnambalamedu, a hill higher than Sabarimala. The controversies are created by misinformed people.



Rahul Easwar, clarifying Makara Jyothi & Vilakku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vCOTF8-7nM



Shyju , Thalasserry

21/01/2011 01:40:58 Swami saranam

It's very true that makara jyothi (he means the Vilakku) is man made thing .In this world many of them knows the truth. And if you proove also do you think from next year onwards no ayyappa devotees will visit sabarimala ??????????????????????????????



It's very clear that all communist and anti hindu parties are jelous to see every year crowd is increasing in sabarimala temple . So what ever campagin u conduct against sabarimla nothing will going to happen. Every hindu devotees have a place for ayyapa in his / her heart. And a ayyapa devotte who took 41 days of vow and go to sabarimala will know who is swami ayyappa.That's the divine power of Dharmashasta. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



[color="#FF0000"]Prof. C.I.Issac [/color]

20/01/2011 10:08:11 Sabarimala

A calculated conspircy is going on in Kerala against Hindu faith and places of worship. The result is the unending controvercies over Hindu places of worship. The main agenda is to make hindu and his faith in defense. Some times Sabarimala, sometimes guruvayoor, or entry of non-hindus in temples, etc are some of the arrows towards Hinduism. Any how, these all said mistakes are with other religons also. But nobody make it as an issue. The ultimate end of all the controvercies regarding to Hindu is to kill the residue fasith through mercy killing. Thus I request all that why we cannot in offensive/

(Like I said: the whole hue and cry about the Makara Vilakku is expressly to deheathenise Hindus. When in reality, Hindoos are going to see their Father - Ayyappa, the God of Shabarimalai who is the Father of the Universe (witnessing the sights associated with him are part of his worship). The Hindoos undergo great penance to go see Him and his darling feet; to see the Bhagavan who resides in his Forests and Malai and who waits bright-eyed and smiling, beyond the Sacred Steps, for his Hindoos. And the time when the Makara Jyoti star appears in the skies is the prescribed auspicious time to see Bhagavan Manikandan - or maNikaNThan as I imagine itrans would require its spelling.)



Ravi

20/01/2011 01:03:30 Artificial or Natural makes no difference

The Makara Jyothi fire (of the Vilakku) might be artificial or natural. But the Jyothi is certainly God. Hinduism does treat Jyothi as the embodiment of God. So even if one lights the fire there is nothing wrong in it. It is like Thiruvanna Malai maha Jyothi. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



ExMuslim (<- natural consequence upon learning about Manikandan)

20/01/2011 01:07:15 Is Hajj rational ?

Why doesn't Kerala Yuktivadi Sangham raise slogan against stoning of Devil in Hajj ? Devils are a mere figment of the mind. Every year hundreds are injured and many also have died in the stampede in Mecca during. CPI(M) is truly shameless when it comes blaming Hindus.

6. http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=13154

If Makara Vilakku is a continuation of a traditional worship of tribals, what is wrong in that?

(The answer to the question - from the POV of christianism - is that "paganism" is not a private business of the "pagans" as Hindoos imagine it is, but is something to be exterminated by christians who have a mandate from their gawd to do so. *Wherever* such "paganism" exists - even if it is in the privacy of your own home or Kovil - the christians insist on descending to stomp it out. Francis Xavier style or by cryptochristianist means.)

25/01/2011 01:41:25 Krishna Kumar



Makara Jyothi being dragged in to an unnecessary controversy. To divert the attention from the gross failure and injustice done to Hindu devotees now Kerala Govt, it's Dewaswom Board and Police are playing blame games. It is also an opportunity for Hindus of Kerala to take some bold steps and decisions. If Makara Vilakku is a continuation of a traditional worship of tribals (Vanavasis, i.e. Hindus), what is wrong in that ?



Those who have witnessed the crowd at Thiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu on Karthika Deepam festival, would understand this better. There, a heap of camphor is lit on top of the mountain on the night of Karthika which can be seen from miles away. Lakhs of devotees assemble there to take part in the festival and worship the flame which they consider as sacred. (Exactly.)



Devotees believe that Ponnambalamedu is special among the eighteen holy hills surrounding Sabarimala. So devotees will bow down to everything in Poonkavanam because they worship Ayyappa as the God who dwells in the nature. (Parrot: Exactly.)

They worship those hills symbolically in the form of 18 steps. The whole of poonkavanam and all the creatures dwelling in it are sacred to devotees. Devotees used to address him as 'Ponnambala Vasan' even before the temple was covered by gold plating. So what is wrong in offering deeparadhana on the auspicious occasion of Makara Samkramam at Lord's natural abode ?

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(Don't quite agree with the rest of the article: with allowing the christo Temple board the chance to insinuate themselves into the peaceful lives of the Hindu Vanavasis. Just be grateful that the deepaaraadhana is continuing. Be grateful to those Hindus for their celebrating Bhagavan and thereby sharing the vision of their deepaaraadhana with the Hindus who see it from Sabarimalai.)

It's like how Daoists - uh Hindus, go to see the Gods in full alankaaram. The point is not who applied the alankaaram: it is to catch sight of the accurate *vision* of the moortis of our Gods whose splendour of beauty illuminates the Hindoo mind with an understanding of all the divine features of their Gods. Having the darshanam itself is a traditional part of (the practise/observance of) *Hindoo* religion. All the particular visions/sounds/etc associated with the Gods in a Temple pilgrimage - be they natural sightings like the Star or carried out as a ritual by Hindoos (like alankaaram, deepam) - are part of the experience of it. These are *all* considered sacred by the ancient Hellenes I mean Hindus. All of it is considered the miracle of the presence of the Gods. Just like the great celebration of the Mystery of the Birth of Dionysus - I think it was - brought on great joy among the Hellenes who came to witness its celebration/reenactment. (As I recall - but don't quote me on this, people should look up the accurate version of events as my memory could have become confused: the Greek ... pujaris.. would produce the Baby Moorti from behind the ceremonial positioning of a cloth: Now the Great Dion had been born in the world! And then the Hellenistic laity who came see it would be thrilled, rapt in the sacred celebration of the arrival of their beloved God.)

This is *heathenism*. This is what Daoists I mean Shintos I mean GR Hellenes - error - I mean Hindoos do. They experience the Cosmic in terms - even re-enactments - that seem 'simple' and 'backward' to the very Progressive and other such hopelessly christo-conditioned, but that are in fact great and true visions of the Divine Gods themselves.



Note that it is specifically nothing like the perverted shadow imitations in the inculturating fraud religions. That empty derangement just copied/stole everything and never had anything of its own (except lying, stealing and genocide).