Post 3/3
7. And the more disturbing facets of the situation.
Pasting, in chronological order, a few of the comments at the following:
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...102&SKIN=K
Cause of disaster (stampede that killed 100+ Hindoos on the Sabarimalai yatra) uncertain
But it is a miracle. A "miracle" of an opportunity for christists to latch on to ban "pagan" (here: Hindoo) religious practice "in the interests of public safety". (Where have I seen this before....)
8. But how can one tell it is christianism?
Well, because christianism has been trying this for years, declaring they want to "expose the fraud" of the Shabarimalai pilgrimage (when their multiple attempts to destroy the Temple outright failed because Hindus stopped them). E.g. some years ago, that openly christochannel NDTV had a piece of drivel on it too - with the exact same contention that it was the "cause of stampedes".
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...753&SKIN=l
ââ¬ËNââ¬â¢ation ââ¬ËDââ¬â¢amaging ââ¬ËTââ¬â¢ele ââ¬ËVââ¬â¢ision (NDTV) hangs head in shame
12/01/2007 04:55:50 B.R.Haran
Wherein one can find evidence of the long-term design. One of the hired stooges, sorry participants (next to that Temple board plant Sudhakaran) already declared the following on NDTV in Jan 2007:
Christianism does this around every major Hindu event: it attempts to discourage future Hindoo participation in some manner. Either by sabotage, outright destruction, take overs. Any reason, any opportunity. All orchestrated.
Christianism monitors every single major Hindu festival, event and Temple gathering for level of adherence, and based on how popular for the masses of Hindus an event is, the christian zombies in govt/media/law-enforcement thereafter take proportional action against it whenever anything Hindu is found to be of such great meaning for heathens that the heathens massively gather. E.g. Kumbha mela, etc. <- This behaviour is another signature of christianism. The article Can Hinduism face the onslaught of Project Thessalonica? at http://www.christianaggression.org/item_...e=articles explains how this works, the christian psychology and methodology behind it.
9. http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...147&SKIN=K
The court case (pseudo-secularly phrased though it is, with cryptochristianism hardly keeping its crypto-cover) is christianism's manner in attempting this.
* The point is:
Look how christianism has now proceeded to the next level: taking Hindus to court over the continuation of Hindu practices. Even carrying out Hindoo traditional practices in their own Temples is something Hindus are no longer allowed to do in peace. Crypto-christianism operates this way (that's why cryptochristianism should have been exposed). When christianism grows it is *always* at the expense of the rights of the heathen religions.
Elsewhere, at some other point in history, christoism "secularly" started by closing down temples under crypto-christian excuses that included "in the interests of public Roman safety". There were *court* cases then too. The Hellenistic Romans tried to keep the Temples open by fighting it in court. Of course, it all ended in tears for them heathens - literally. (Because peaceful means of protest are so "fruitful" against christoislamism's total war.) And that was just the beginning. Eventually, christianism would establish sufficient power to stop all pretence of heathens having any say to prevent christian destruction of Temples, and christianism just started mowing down the GrecoRoman Temples at will.
Actually, I've been inserting my own words unnecessarily. People can work all this out for themselves. There's only one thing in all this Series of Christo-Orchestrated Events that Hindus need to recall: the [color="#FF0000"]Codes of Theodosius and Justinian.[/color]
If any Hindoo doesn't know what that is, it's in the interest of the survival of their Hindooness to learn: it's a set of increasingly anti-Hellenistic laws enacted against the indigenous GrecoRoman religion by successive christian emperors of Rome, who were slowly proscribing (banning) the religion of Hellenismos from the GR countries.
See http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3b.htm#EdictAndCodes
(The section on the Theodosian & Justinian Codes starts a bit further down.)
"increasingly anti-Hellenistic" laws <=> slow frying of the heathen frog in the frying pan.
7. And the more disturbing facets of the situation.
Pasting, in chronological order, a few of the comments at the following:
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...102&SKIN=K
Cause of disaster (stampede that killed 100+ Hindoos on the Sabarimalai yatra) uncertain
Quote:Prof. [color="#FF0000"]C.I.Issac [/color]
16/01/2011 09:33:52 Pullumedu disaster is doubtful [color="#800080"](he means: "suspicious")[/color]
[color="#0000FF"]I have serious doubt over the Pullumedu disaster. The terrain of the region is no at all a disaster creating one. It is friendly terrain. For the last 50 years the Lord Ayyappa devotees using this place for seeing Maakara Jyothi. The nearest town Vandiperiyar is the seat of jihadi activities. Another thing is that when the stampade is occured the shopkeepers of the Pullumedu region behaved violently towards the Ayyappa devotees who took assylum in their shops.[/color] So I doubt (as in "suspect") that behind this disaster some black hands operated well. [color="#0000FF"]The government and opposition parties did their best to conceal the actual cause behind the disaster. The jeep which said to have instrumental to the disaster[/color] is a private vehicle. It is no more a taxi vehicle. Why and how such a private vehicle reached there? What is the role of the vehicle in this disaster? So the investigation over the disaster should begin from this private vehicle and its owner.
[color="#0000FF"]Raj
17/01/2011 08:20:51 This is a planned incident
Incident took place at 8.15 pm. 11 pm Oomen Chandy goes to the site. 11.30 pm Sonia Maino Ghandi express condolence and issues it as a national tragedy.
11.35pm M.A Baby talks to National english television headlines today, 11.40 pm Thomas Issac talks to national english tv. At the same time P.c.Chako and other Pauls, Thomas, chandy and others christian leaders talk to national english tv.
Where was our Hindu leaders from kerala. No where to be seen on national english channel tv like IBN, NDTV, Headlines today etc...
Read between the lines. I said at that time 11.30 pm(when sonia expressed condolence before any other national leader and OOmen chandy visited the place so fast) this is a conspiracy[/color]
nikhil
18/01/2011 09:38:53 the christians....
the jeep driver (the jeep that caused the stampede that killed the 100+ Hindoos at the Sabarimalai pilgrimage) was [color="#0000FF"]Nelson[/color].He may be worker of some christian missionary group or congress-i.the next five years of oommen chandy-ruled kerala will be the last period of kerala hindus.Christians have conquered whole of kerala.the lands...the police force...medical field...jwelleries...politics...everything...now they are killing hindus by creating artificial stampede.the jeep driver should be hanged to death.
Anand
18/01/2011 01:01:01 Hey Hindus U wake up!!!
Yes it was the right time for Christists to kill the AYYAPPAS. Since LDF is going out of power, Christists still want it when LDF is in power. And LDF will still expect minority votes and will be inactive on AYYAPPAS massacre as wee see now. Hey Hindus U wake up. You can 100% trust Muslims when compared to Devil Christians. Aaatttin tholitta achayananu Ayyappan mare konnathu.
Achayante lakshyam ennum Musliminem Hindunem thammill thallikkuka ennathanu. Oru Malappuram registration jeep kandarum samsayikkandaa. Everything is possible when Sanya Miano Gandhi is in power. Hey Hindus U wake up !!!
But it is a miracle. A "miracle" of an opportunity for christists to latch on to ban "pagan" (here: Hindoo) religious practice "in the interests of public safety". (Where have I seen this before....)
8. But how can one tell it is christianism?
Well, because christianism has been trying this for years, declaring they want to "expose the fraud" of the Shabarimalai pilgrimage (when their multiple attempts to destroy the Temple outright failed because Hindus stopped them). E.g. some years ago, that openly christochannel NDTV had a piece of drivel on it too - with the exact same contention that it was the "cause of stampedes".
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...753&SKIN=l
ââ¬ËNââ¬â¢ation ââ¬ËDââ¬â¢amaging ââ¬ËTââ¬â¢ele ââ¬ËVââ¬â¢ision (NDTV) hangs head in shame
12/01/2007 04:55:50 B.R.Haran
Wherein one can find evidence of the long-term design. One of the hired stooges, sorry participants (next to that Temple board plant Sudhakaran) already declared the following on NDTV in Jan 2007:
Quote:Mr. Rajan Gurukkal:- Such a farce has resulted in many stampedes and unfortunate deaths. It is condemnable that the government itself is involved in such set ups. [color="#800080"](Yes, why is the christogovt involved with Hindu Temples? LET GO.)[/color]
Christianism does this around every major Hindu event: it attempts to discourage future Hindoo participation in some manner. Either by sabotage, outright destruction, take overs. Any reason, any opportunity. All orchestrated.
Christianism monitors every single major Hindu festival, event and Temple gathering for level of adherence, and based on how popular for the masses of Hindus an event is, the christian zombies in govt/media/law-enforcement thereafter take proportional action against it whenever anything Hindu is found to be of such great meaning for heathens that the heathens massively gather. E.g. Kumbha mela, etc. <- This behaviour is another signature of christianism. The article Can Hinduism face the onslaught of Project Thessalonica? at http://www.christianaggression.org/item_...e=articles explains how this works, the christian psychology and methodology behind it.
9. http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.as...147&SKIN=K
Quote:Bid on to destroy Hindu beliefs: Sabarimala priestYes it is "conspiracy": the court case is christianism's bid to prevent Hindus from being Hindoos - i.e. from going to see their Bhagavan at Sabarimalai at the Right time in the Right manner and observing the Right practices. That is, it is to break their heathenism (adherence to traditional religious practice is heathenism), and thereby break the sanctity of the Kovil, paving their way to break the Kovil itself.
23/01/2011 14:48:43 VR Jayaraj | Kochi - Daily Pioneer
The controversy over whether the holy flame of Keralaââ¬â¢s Sabarimala pilgrimage centre is a celestial occurrence or man-made is the result of a conspiracy of atheists* against Hindu religious beliefs, says Kantararu Maheswararu, senior member of the Tantri (traditional chief priest) family in charge of Sabarimalaââ¬â¢s Lord Ayyappa shrine.
(* "Atheists" and "impious" - devoid of devotion to the Real Gods - became ways of referring particularly to "christians" in Hellenistic Rome as well; it is certainly applicable here as the wrongly-termed 'atheists' in this case are cryptochristians masquerading as univeral atheists.)
Certain sections were using the January 14 stampede at Pullumedu near Sabarimala during the pilgrimage in which 102 devotees were killed to destroy Hindu religious faith and to sabotage the pilgrimage, he alleged while talking to mediapersons in Kochi on Sunday.
ââ¬ÅInstead of trying to provide security and facilities for the devotees who trek to the Lord Ayyappa temple, these people are trying to ridicule Hindu religious beliefs by triggering unnecessary controversies,ââ¬Â the Tantri said. The controversy over Makara Vilakku (the holy flame of Sabarimala) was part of this bid, he said.
Rationalists and materialists of Kerala have launched an alleged smear campaign against
Sabarimala claiming that the holy flame appearing at Ponnambalamedu, a summit away from the Sabarimala shrine, on a particular day was no divine occurrence but is created by employees of the Electricity Board and Forest Department with the help of the police.
Tantri Maheswararu said that the fame of Makara Samkramam (the evening of the last day of Dhanu month of Malayalam calendar) revolved around the Makara Jyoti and Makara Vilakku. While the Jyoti was a star, the Vilakku was the light of Deeparadhana, worship with lights, performed at Ponnambalamedu.
ââ¬ÅThis Deeparadhana is a symbolic ritual, which used to be performed by Adivasis earlier. I donââ¬â¢t know who is performing it now. All I can say is that the Thazhamon family (of the Tantris) has no connection with it,ââ¬Â he said.
(Actually, isn't it the tradition that no Hindu should ever pry the forest to 'discover' who/what is causing it - besides, its origins/causes are irrelevant to Hindus, only its presence matters - but just be appreciative of the presence of an outdoors deepaaraadhana at this time? That would mean it is quite likely that the Kovil's Tantri Vadyars of old - of the many generations before now - would not have broken the taboo to 'investigate' it. (Alternatively, maybe it was merely to discourage other Hindus from badgering the Vanavasis if they carried it out back then as well?) But who or what did it in ages past appears to be unknown/unrecorded - and the Vilakku event does predate (see Rajeev Srinivasan's observation that) Chinese Buddhist visitors from centuries ago noted it.
While it was I think the Somnatha Kovil (was it?) that no longer has a Lingam mysteriously suspended in the akasham - the temple has been broken and desecrated so oft by islamania, along with the invisible power of its traditional sanctity thereby becoming severed - the fact remains that when the islamaniacs first recorded the wonder of whichever Temple it was, they admitted in displeased marvel that the Lingam was in the air held up by unseen forces. For that reason, they proceeded to break the Temple repeatedly each time it was rebuilt: was it not yet more proof of the Hindoo Gods, Gods who are opposed tooth-and-nail by jeebusjehovallah in the christoislamic's biblical commandment #1?
Anyway, whatever or whoever causes the Makara Vilakku now - after the Sabarimalai Kovil and lands were taken over by a cryptochristian Temple board, and the Temple's traditional sanctity slowly destroyed through break of practice and other deliberate christo-desecrations etc - need not have been what caused it in the past, unless there are Hindu texts of the time that plainly reveal this. So whatever caused it in the past seems unlikely to be discovered: since, again as far as I know, Hindus never broke that taboo of leaving the irrelevant 'mystery' (or not) of its cause alone.
So wouldn't even be surprised if christogovt plants such as in the Temple board - and no longer any Vanavasis=Hindus - were lighting the lamps now, just so they can first charge Hindus more money for it AND to eventually spring the story via the christomedia of how they are the ones causing it, just so the christomedia can then advertise it as being a "great Hindu fraud" in their effort to close the Temple in the "interests of public safety" etc. It's what christianism does after all.*)
Rationalists have approached the Supreme Court and the Kerala High Court seeking issuance of orders to the concerned to end the practice of creating the Makara Vilkakku, which they allege is being used by the temple board and the Government as a means to promote the shrine among devotees from other States.
[color="#800080"](Note how angry christianism is that Bhagavan Ayyappa is so irresistible as to attract Hindoos from so many states. So they reason - very christo-terroristically (yes I made that word up, I'm clever that way) - that it "must be" the Makara Vilakku that is exclusively attracting his Bhaktas rather than himself.)[/color]
What was going on in Kerala presently in the name of the Makara Vilakku was a conflict between belief and atheism, Tantri Maheswararu said. He alleged that the atheists and the media had joined hands to tarnish the divine image of the Sabarimala shrine.
The Sangh Pariwar and various Hindu organizations in Kerala have already aired sharp criticisms against the alleged bid of the atheists to sabotage Sabarimala pilgrimage through the controversy over Makara Vilakku and the Kerala High Courtââ¬â¢s query whether Vilakku was a divine occurrence or artificial creation.
The Kerala BJP criticised the High Courtââ¬â¢s intervention in harsh words. According to State party president V Muraleedharan, the court was crossing its limits with such observations and inquiries. The courtââ¬â¢s job was to interpret laws and not to decide whether a faith-based event was divine or artificial, he said.
(In heathen religions, everything in nature is divine. All worship of the Gods is divine. Whether I/another Hindu such as the Vanavasis of the Hill wave the aarati about or whether it mysteriously waves about on its own is irrelevant: the act of deepaaraadhanai is associated with the worship of the Gods, which is an act of Divine communion/experience/vision - it thrills the Hindoo's heart. See brief ref to Mystery of Birth of Dion again, somewhere above.)
Kummanam Rajasekharan, general secretary of the Hindu Aikya Vedi, says that Vilakku is deeply rooted in religious belief and therefore it is objectionable to make it a controversy. The Kerala Viswa Karma Sabha alleged that the Pullumedu tragedy and the controversy over the Vilakku were indications of a conspiratorial move to sabotage the Sabarimala pilgrimage.
The court case (pseudo-secularly phrased though it is, with cryptochristianism hardly keeping its crypto-cover) is christianism's manner in attempting this.
* The point is:
Look how christianism has now proceeded to the next level: taking Hindus to court over the continuation of Hindu practices. Even carrying out Hindoo traditional practices in their own Temples is something Hindus are no longer allowed to do in peace. Crypto-christianism operates this way (that's why cryptochristianism should have been exposed). When christianism grows it is *always* at the expense of the rights of the heathen religions.
Elsewhere, at some other point in history, christoism "secularly" started by closing down temples under crypto-christian excuses that included "in the interests of public Roman safety". There were *court* cases then too. The Hellenistic Romans tried to keep the Temples open by fighting it in court. Of course, it all ended in tears for them heathens - literally. (Because peaceful means of protest are so "fruitful" against christoislamism's total war.) And that was just the beginning. Eventually, christianism would establish sufficient power to stop all pretence of heathens having any say to prevent christian destruction of Temples, and christianism just started mowing down the GrecoRoman Temples at will.
Actually, I've been inserting my own words unnecessarily. People can work all this out for themselves. There's only one thing in all this Series of Christo-Orchestrated Events that Hindus need to recall: the [color="#FF0000"]Codes of Theodosius and Justinian.[/color]
If any Hindoo doesn't know what that is, it's in the interest of the survival of their Hindooness to learn: it's a set of increasingly anti-Hellenistic laws enacted against the indigenous GrecoRoman religion by successive christian emperors of Rome, who were slowly proscribing (banning) the religion of Hellenismos from the GR countries.
See http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3b.htm#EdictAndCodes
(The section on the Theodosian & Justinian Codes starts a bit further down.)
"increasingly anti-Hellenistic" laws <=> slow frying of the heathen frog in the frying pan.