On this statement:
[quote name='Husky' date='01 August 2011 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1312204720' post='112328']So if Benedict says "Europe" more often than he harps on "jeebus", it is not that he does not care about jeebus - the christian empire is for ("the glory of") jeebus alone, however non-existent, and so too is the reclamation of it - but because when the church says "Europe", it is expressly synonymous (as it ever was) with christendom.[/quote]
http://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2011...dha-rajan/
2 Multiculturalism is for the birds
Radha Rajan
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At least Hindus can stop pretending that "America" (or the rest of the "Americas") has anything to do with christianism or belongs to "Americans". It belongs to native Americans alone. It is - as it ever was - the sacred native American homeland, belonging to them, their ancestors and the Gods of the indigenous. And so it remains forever, regardless of the ongoing, institutionalised, self-deluding indoctrination about how these lands now "belong" to christianism and foreigners - which are loud claims advanced solely by said christian foreigners (including the well-trained parrots like the various Dinace de Souzas), to drown the fear they feel of discovery of their crime of having silenced the rightful indigenous heathen owners altogether. But the rest of the world is quite aware of the truth.
Native Americans should continue striving for their own/their land's complete independence, as they had been doing actively for the last 500+ years. Their rightful claims on their own homeland should never be abandoned. E.g. everywhere online where some alien usurper declares that "America is a christian nation" to propagate the christian lie, even a sole native American heathen voice making its presence felt by stating the terrifying (because indisputable) truth of the matter, should suffice to immediately expose the christian falsehood and render it inadmissable.
[quote name='Husky' date='01 August 2011 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1312204720' post='112328']So if Benedict says "Europe" more often than he harps on "jeebus", it is not that he does not care about jeebus - the christian empire is for ("the glory of") jeebus alone, however non-existent, and so too is the reclamation of it - but because when the church says "Europe", it is expressly synonymous (as it ever was) with christendom.[/quote]
http://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2011...dha-rajan/
2 Multiculturalism is for the birds
Radha Rajan
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The first important step in Europe towards self-description came in 2002 from Pope John Paul II and the then Cardinal Ratzinger, now incumbent Pope; in America, around the same time the process of self-description was marked by Samuel Huntingtonââ¬â¢s Who are We? The Challenges to Americaââ¬â¢s National Identity (Simon & Schuster, 2004) and a renewed national debate over whether the Pledge of Allegiance (not to be confused with the Oath of Allegiance) was mandatory for all students in American schools.
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As the European Union was emerging from its chrysalis, the Pope had to speak up, as others had, to emphasize Europeââ¬â¢s Christian-ness before Multiculturalism was made Europeââ¬â¢s defining virtue.
Q: There is a debate over the inclusion of the word ââ¬ËGodââ¬â¢ and references to Europeââ¬â¢s Christian past in the preambles of the future [European] Constitution. Do you think there can be a united Europe that has turned its back on its Christian past?
A: I am convinced that Europe must not just be something economic [or] political; rather, it is in need of spiritual foundations.
It is a historical fact that Europe is Christian, and that it has grown on the foundation of the Christian faith, which continues to be the foundation of the values for this continent, which in turn has influenced other continents.
(I.e. to Ratzy and his predecessor JPII: Europe = christendom. It certainly was so in the medieval christian past.)
It is imperative to have a foundation of values and, if we ask ourselves what that foundation is, we realize that, beyond the confessions, there are no others outside the great values of the Christian faith. And this is why it is imperative that in the future Constitution of Europe mention is made of the Christian foundations of Europe. (Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger from an interview given on 1 December 2002 to a group of journalists at the Catholic University of St. Anthony, Murcia, Spain)
Europe is a cultural and not a geographical continent. It is united by its culture which gives it a common identity. The roots which formed ââ¬Â¦ this continent are those of Christianity. (Josef Ratzinger prior to his election as Pope Benedict XIV, in an Interview in Le Figaro, August 2004, putting the case for the exclusion of Turkey on religious grounds)
(Note how heathen nations - in particular Bharatam - are not allowed to be *heathen* civilisations even though that is exactly and innately what they are. Instead, heathen nations are described by the christowest and christos inside the country as having no history, no religions, not defined by religion, only random geography and happenstance. I.e. as blank slates awaiting conversion, and whose history can be claimed for christianism, such as via the late St Thomas fables imposed onto factual history.
Note also how there is no recognition of the traditional Roman Empire and all things Ancient Greek being [i]Hellenistic. They too are turned neutral, as if there is a phenomenon to be called "GrecoRoman civilisation" without mentioning how this is exclusively owing to Hellenismos and identical with it.
In contrast, what's now called "Europe" was originally no more than unrelated geography shoved together by an alien ideology foisted on its various inhabitants - as Dhu said: 'No justification of unified Europe (within Christendom) is required as in times past; this is already the commonplace notion after 2000 years of forceful "unification" by the Church.')
Turkey [is] an Asiatic nation, its capital is not in Europe, 95% of its population is outside Europe. Turkey has a different culture, a different approach, a different way of life. Letting it in would be the end of the European Union. (Valéry Giscard dââ¬â¢Estaing, French President 1974-1981, President of Commission for drafting the EU Constitution set up in 2002. Widely taken to mean he doesnââ¬â¢t want Turkey to join because it is a majority Muslim country)
Europeââ¬â¢s founders, like Adenauer, De Gaspari and Schuman, put their Christian [Catholic] faith at the centre of their political lives. How can we underestimate, for example, the fact that in 1951, before beginning the delicate negotiations which would lead to the adoption of the Treaty of Paris, they wished to meet in a Benedictine monastery on the Rhine for meditation and prayer? (Pope John Paul II, 7 November 2003, Audience with members of European Christian Democrat Foundation, appealing to have Christianity mentioned in the EU Constitution)
We will be joined to a Europe in which the Catholic religion will be the dominant faith, and in which the application of the Catholic Social Doctrine will be the major factor in everyday political and economic life. (Shirley Williams, British Labour Minister and later co-founder of Social Democrats)[/i]
Besides turning the Genesis on its head by attributing human Founders for Europe and besides giving short shrift to geography, the following ideas emerge unambiguously from these statements ââ¬â
+ The then Pope, the incumbent Pope and important political leaders in Europe declare firmly that Europe is Christian
+ The bare-faced lie that Europe grew on the foundations of Christianity
+ That Europe is not a geographic but a cultural entity and Europeââ¬â¢s Founders put their Christian faith at the centre of their political lives
+ The Generic Church will not acknowledge, much less legitimise any pre-Christian past or roots for Europe
+ The incumbent Pope and a former President of France (the spectre of Algeria was haunting France) do not want Muslim Turkey within the Christian European Union which would effectively make Turkey a European country
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Other things in the article:
Quote:This is not the only instance when the Church has rejected multiculturalism on its turf. The Church closed ranks and rejected the Muslim demand to build a mosque adjacent to the Basilica of Annunciation in Nazareth. The Basilica of Annunciation is built on the site where the Church claims Angel Gabriel told Mary she would give birth to Jesus.
Muslims claim that the site is important to them too historically because it is the final resting place of Shahib-al-Din, nephew of Saladin who commanded the Jihadi army which defeated the Crusaders in 1187. The Israeli government at first permitted the Muslims to build the mosque and the marble cornerstone was unveiled with much fanfare on November 23, 1999.
The Christian world reacted with anger over the Muslim demand and over the Israeli governmentââ¬â¢s decision to allow the mosque to come up next to the Basilica. This notwithstanding the fact that Nazareth is important to both Christians and Muslims; that the site in question is historically important to both communities; most significantly, notwithstanding the fact that Muslims today constitute two-thirds of Nazarethââ¬â¢s population.
Considering the lectures on pluralism, freedom of religion and rights of minorities which the U.S and the Vatican have given to Indiaââ¬â¢s Hindus, this makes interesting reading ââ¬â
A special Israeli government committee is debating whether Nazareth officials should allow Muslims to continue building a mosque alongside the famous Basilica of the Annunciation.
Israeli officials created the committee in response to a new wave of international appeals. Israel decided in 1998 to allow the mosqueââ¬â¢s construction, despite protests from Nazarethââ¬â¢s Christians. The Vatican, the White House, and an international coalition of Catholic and Protestant Christian church groups have opposed construction.
Critics have said that the new mosque could physically overwhelm the adjacent church site and threaten the delicate status quo between Nazarethââ¬â¢s Muslim Arab majority and Christian Arab minority.
The mosque might contain multiple spires that would tower over the black-coned dome of the basilica, says Dave Parsons, a spokesman for the International Christian Embassy, one of the groups protesting the construction.
ââ¬ÅIt will demean the basilica and force Christians to run a gantlet from the main street to the church,ââ¬Â Parsons said. ââ¬ÅWe want the city authorities to restore the public plaza and establish a buffer zone against any future encroachment attempts.ââ¬Â (http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002...27.33.html)
Quote:America fares no better than Europe at self-description and dealing with multiculturalism. Samuel Huntington, like President Kennedy before him described the United States of America as a Nation of Immigrants. For ââ¬Åan anguished, frantic, over-burdened academic producing scholarly worksââ¬Â, the description was a travesty of truth which condemned Native Americans and African Americans to non-existence by leaving them outside the pale of this popular description.Ah yes, the Bering Strait theory: wasn't that the one where the eternal-aliens threatened "You native American peoples are as much immigrants (albeit earlier) as we are".
Native Americans were native or indigenous to the continent and Bering Strait theory notwithstanding cannot be termed immigrants; and the forcible transportation of Africans to the American continent can hardly be termed immigration. If we discount from Huntingtonââ¬â¢s description the blatant falsehood of calling European Christian genociders, invaders, freebooters, settlers-by-force, slave holders and slave traders as immigrants, what remains of the American populace ââ¬â Germans, Irish, Scandinavians, Latin Americans and Asians ââ¬â fits the description. America is a nation of immigrants.
At least Hindus can stop pretending that "America" (or the rest of the "Americas") has anything to do with christianism or belongs to "Americans". It belongs to native Americans alone. It is - as it ever was - the sacred native American homeland, belonging to them, their ancestors and the Gods of the indigenous. And so it remains forever, regardless of the ongoing, institutionalised, self-deluding indoctrination about how these lands now "belong" to christianism and foreigners - which are loud claims advanced solely by said christian foreigners (including the well-trained parrots like the various Dinace de Souzas), to drown the fear they feel of discovery of their crime of having silenced the rightful indigenous heathen owners altogether. But the rest of the world is quite aware of the truth.
Native Americans should continue striving for their own/their land's complete independence, as they had been doing actively for the last 500+ years. Their rightful claims on their own homeland should never be abandoned. E.g. everywhere online where some alien usurper declares that "America is a christian nation" to propagate the christian lie, even a sole native American heathen voice making its presence felt by stating the terrifying (because indisputable) truth of the matter, should suffice to immediately expose the christian falsehood and render it inadmissable.