Am sure I could never have said that Buddhism had christian tendencies. Nor that Buddhism was a monotheism.
Different from what is meant with "monotheistic tendency".
I have often used "monotheistic tendency" (I imagine I may have coined that inept phrase - if it pre-existed, then it was independently derived), and use it precisely for the salvation business. Have used it before for feminism - since feminists very much exhibit the monotheistic tendency: they want to save women in their nation and the rest of the world, by transferring on to others their way of viewing things, their way of changing things and their 'ideal outcome' of things.
I find the phrase applicable to communism too, etc.
- Monotheism is of course the one "true" gawdism, and the related need to foist the one "true" invisible gawd on others.
- In contrast, monotheistic tendency is far more general: the belief that people have found the one true/complete solution (even in terms of religion/ideology) and their need/determination to shove this onto others. It's because they imagine that others are lacking somehow, that others' (pre-existing) views or religions or lives are incorrect or somehow incomplete without introduction of the solution. That other people "want" - even if they don't yet know they "want" - the nouveau solution.
Though the choice of words - 'soul saving' - is not what I was literally alluding to, the distinction the post above was getting at noticed the dividing line:
The latter religions are ethnic (ancestral, original) religions. (Traditional Shintos - and Daoists certainly - don't missionise. Eastern Buddhist movements that call themselves "Daoist" do. Don't know about modern Bon.)
The religions/ideologies of the world are organised in a pecking order. (And BTW, Buddhism is not at the *bottom* of the order.)
One more time. Because the Hellenes have an excellent way with words:
http://ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#17
1. The primary meaning of Ecumenical is universal. Same as catholic. I suspect "ecumenical" has Greek derivation while "catholic" derives from IIRC Latin. (And ecumenical religions by nature are against ethnic religion/"anti-ethnic".)
But it is not only monotheisms - nor even only religions - that seek to convert the world to their way of thinking and being. E.g. communism. There are even militant atheists who declare their need to 'evangelise' the world into atheism.
2. The Hellenes above explain "We are enemies of all forms of proselytism, because it nullifies autonomy and free will."
While true, it is more than that. Proselytising is intrusive and destroys the naturally evolving state of things.
And it is rooted in arrogance: the thought that 1. there is but one very specific universal truth ("The Truth") binding on all, and 2. that you have it and 3. that the rest of the world needs it.
I don't believe, but I am certain - and have ever been certain - that many an old religion knows what they are doing. That they *don't* need replacement or "enhancement". And that if they ever find room, they will choose to adopt things of their *own* volition, rather than that uninvited others creating unwanted syncretisms or otherwise insinuating themselves onto the natural religions.
3. "All forms of proselytism are raw violent attacks against human liberty."
Moreover, all forms of proselytism are based on the assumption that the world is filled with fools and that you (and your chosen few) are the only exceptions. That the rest of the world can't work things out for themselves.
In reality: the ancient natural world is filled with generally-sane people, who would know what they're doing when it comes to religion and views on their afterlife/whatever.
(Though the possessed world of the modern age - last two millennia - has a growing number of zombies.)
http://ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#13
"Our understanding of the Divine is the same as that of our ancestors" <- definition of unsubverted heathen. No breaks, no inserts (incl. no externally-influenced changes of meaning).
Different from what is meant with "monotheistic tendency".
I have often used "monotheistic tendency" (I imagine I may have coined that inept phrase - if it pre-existed, then it was independently derived), and use it precisely for the salvation business. Have used it before for feminism - since feminists very much exhibit the monotheistic tendency: they want to save women in their nation and the rest of the world, by transferring on to others their way of viewing things, their way of changing things and their 'ideal outcome' of things.
I find the phrase applicable to communism too, etc.
- Monotheism is of course the one "true" gawdism, and the related need to foist the one "true" invisible gawd on others.
- In contrast, monotheistic tendency is far more general: the belief that people have found the one true/complete solution (even in terms of religion/ideology) and their need/determination to shove this onto others. It's because they imagine that others are lacking somehow, that others' (pre-existing) views or religions or lives are incorrect or somehow incomplete without introduction of the solution. That other people "want" - even if they don't yet know they "want" - the nouveau solution.
Though the choice of words - 'soul saving' - is not what I was literally alluding to, the distinction the post above was getting at noticed the dividing line:
Quote:The only similarity between christianity/monotheism and buddhism is that they are both soul-saving religions.Christianism and Buddhism consider themselves universal religions. They're certainly not the only ones.
Shinto,tao and bon are not soul-saving religions.They are not interested to save souls.
The latter religions are ethnic (ancestral, original) religions. (Traditional Shintos - and Daoists certainly - don't missionise. Eastern Buddhist movements that call themselves "Daoist" do. Don't know about modern Bon.)
The religions/ideologies of the world are organised in a pecking order. (And BTW, Buddhism is not at the *bottom* of the order.)
One more time. Because the Hellenes have an excellent way with words:
http://ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#17
Quote:Does Ethnic Hellenic religion engage in proselytizing?
[color="#0000FF"]Certainly not, we are dealing here with a clearly ethnic polytheistic (natural) religion, that is to say one that concerns a very specific Ethnos.[/color] If a non-Hellenic origin wants to honor our Gods, then he is always welcome to decide this for himself, as we will never try to convince him.
[color="#0000FF"]The phenomenon of proselytism belongs exclusively to the anti-ethnic and 'ecumenical'[/color] monotheistic religions. Their aim is to foster [color="#0000FF"]a denial of previously held correct views and replace them with novel alien ones. Proselytism involves crude attempts to misguide naive and spiritually weak people.[/color] To us it is wholly detestable, both as a means to an end and as a way of making a point.
[color="#0000FF"]We are enemies of all forms of proselytism, because it nullifies autonomy and free will.[/color] In our country, all foreign religions engage in proselytism, including the ruling one that practices it with especial audacity, calling it 'catechism' (and even emphases the 'importance of catechism' in the state education system). The outrageous laws of the Metaxas dictatorship grant 'Orthodoxy' the sole right to proselytize, making it unlawful for its competition. All forms of proselytism are raw violent attacks against human liberty.
1. The primary meaning of Ecumenical is universal. Same as catholic. I suspect "ecumenical" has Greek derivation while "catholic" derives from IIRC Latin. (And ecumenical religions by nature are against ethnic religion/"anti-ethnic".)
But it is not only monotheisms - nor even only religions - that seek to convert the world to their way of thinking and being. E.g. communism. There are even militant atheists who declare their need to 'evangelise' the world into atheism.
2. The Hellenes above explain "We are enemies of all forms of proselytism, because it nullifies autonomy and free will."
While true, it is more than that. Proselytising is intrusive and destroys the naturally evolving state of things.
And it is rooted in arrogance: the thought that 1. there is but one very specific universal truth ("The Truth") binding on all, and 2. that you have it and 3. that the rest of the world needs it.
I don't believe, but I am certain - and have ever been certain - that many an old religion knows what they are doing. That they *don't* need replacement or "enhancement". And that if they ever find room, they will choose to adopt things of their *own* volition, rather than that uninvited others creating unwanted syncretisms or otherwise insinuating themselves onto the natural religions.
3. "All forms of proselytism are raw violent attacks against human liberty."
Moreover, all forms of proselytism are based on the assumption that the world is filled with fools and that you (and your chosen few) are the only exceptions. That the rest of the world can't work things out for themselves.
In reality: the ancient natural world is filled with generally-sane people, who would know what they're doing when it comes to religion and views on their afterlife/whatever.
(Though the possessed world of the modern age - last two millennia - has a growing number of zombies.)
http://ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=faq#13
Quote:In the healthy pre-Christian human state, the Earth's surface teemed with a polymorphic Ethnosphere. By this we mean a beautiful variety of indigenous civilizations, traditions and religions that were distributed in every part of the world. Each unique Nation understood the Divine differently and appealed to the Gods using a variety of names. Hence, the various Native Religions became unique in themselves and every Nation, and its spiritual descendants, 'brought down' elements of the Godly realm to their altars, as appropriate to their particular needs. Our understanding of the Divine is the same as that of our ancestors, and is expressed by our Religion, whose origins are lost in remote antiquity.I like how they say this. I have heard others (other "heathens") say it too. Where some people and ideologies see "superstitions to be replaced" ("they deserve/require it" mentality), heathens see/recognise what the Hellenes of YSEE.gr just stated.
"Our understanding of the Divine is the same as that of our ancestors" <- definition of unsubverted heathen. No breaks, no inserts (incl. no externally-influenced changes of meaning).
Death to traitors.