Aryan Invasion/migration Theories & Debates -2

[HareKrishna]

[quote name='Husky' date='28 September 2011 - 07:34 PM' timestamp='1317218191' post='113058']

Sumishi, maybe you're not yet aware of Cremo and gang. Michael Cremo - and some colleague of his - are ISKCONites, and who, like others, attempted cryptoism to peddle creationism. Fortunately, TalkOrigins long ago discussed their attempts to derail science. Unfortunately, TalkOrigins mistook ISKCON to be something Hindu (when ISKCON's founder explicitly said it was not <- a very lucky escape for Hindus, else Hindus would be forcibly saddled with even more of the uninvited: foreign "converts" :eek

Here:

1. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/lepper.html

(ISKCON uses "Vedic" mostly for ISKCONism.)

And there's a very obvious reason why they plagiarise from (fundamental) christians - their methods in general are often aligned: the need they feel to peddle creationism (foist their view on the world - Pass), and the missionising and subsequent wails of "persecution" (as happens in E Europe/Russia) are but some shared features.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/groves.htmlSadly TalkOrigins mistakes them for representing Hindus on this page:

Nonsense. ISKCONites do not represent Hindus, or therefore "fundamentalist Hindus" (whatever this new species may be).

And I don't know about others, but I've never encountered any Hindu bringing up say the diggajas, patalam and devalokam as objections to the planet's state. (Of course, the Hindu Gods are real; so even the Diggajas apparently - I wouldn't know - but all that's a different matter.)

2. http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-...nists.html

At least TalkOrigins here didn't refer to this as Hindu, but called it the ISKCON movement. Phew.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom.html

Hindus approving of - hence peddling - ISKCONism (or other such famous global movements): know *what* you're cheering first.

If you don't know, then don't promote things. Better yet: avoid.

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Prabhupad had said many times that Iskcon is not hindu.However iskconites today(from USA,UK Russia) claim to represent the true hindu culture(or the true vedic culture in contrast to corupted vedic of other non-iskcon hindus),in order to atract indian imigrants in that countries after they lost most of their white members.In many palces today Iskcon have more indian members than westerners.