Despite generously-funded research programs over the past 2 decades, nothing has been found supporting antiquity of the R line in Europe. These may be more recent than any have yet dared to claim. Even Bronze age?
R1b is very likely from Zagros/Baluchistan.
R1a1 is from Kashmir/Punjab/Gandhara.
I personally favor Indic sway over the entire W Eurasian landmass as would be seen over E Asia later (with Buddhist penetration deep into Siberia and Phillipines)
Just as Native American trails were well marked out and stretched across the N.Am. continent, the same was true for the Indics. Criss-crossing tribes across C Asia is a false paradigm. The pattern was Eastern explorers heading west yet maintaining connections across vast geographic and time scales. This is one positive contributions of Cremo's work: that the indics of pre-history were as sophisticated as native americans/vedics and were not at all cretins. I really doubt that the Turkic and Mongolian expansions dented the transcontinental understandings of the Indics; the operating matrix was heathen and not "ethnic" and any superficial language changes would have been absorbed without problems. It was only with Alexandrian monotheism that fragmentation and "independence" occurred.
It is even possible that E1b is the most native to Europe. Hitler would thus be a representative of the paleo-dark euro native which we are assured about in various places.
R1b is very likely from Zagros/Baluchistan.
R1a1 is from Kashmir/Punjab/Gandhara.
I personally favor Indic sway over the entire W Eurasian landmass as would be seen over E Asia later (with Buddhist penetration deep into Siberia and Phillipines)
Just as Native American trails were well marked out and stretched across the N.Am. continent, the same was true for the Indics. Criss-crossing tribes across C Asia is a false paradigm. The pattern was Eastern explorers heading west yet maintaining connections across vast geographic and time scales. This is one positive contributions of Cremo's work: that the indics of pre-history were as sophisticated as native americans/vedics and were not at all cretins. I really doubt that the Turkic and Mongolian expansions dented the transcontinental understandings of the Indics; the operating matrix was heathen and not "ethnic" and any superficial language changes would have been absorbed without problems. It was only with Alexandrian monotheism that fragmentation and "independence" occurred.
It is even possible that E1b is the most native to Europe. Hitler would thus be a representative of the paleo-dark euro native which we are assured about in various places.