04-30-2012, 09:00 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 10:18 AM by Bharat_2009.)
[quote name='osman' date='30 April 2012 - 01:36 AM' timestamp='1335729506' post='114758']
Well the trouble with "all is well concept" as deterrence isn't whether we have a good design. It's two fold, the deterrence is what the enemy feels is unacceptable damage and the utilization of nuclear material and the quantity of nuclear warheads. BK is of the view that both boosted fission and thermonuclear devices did not work as expected. So we must test again.
OperatingSystem man.
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Different opinions exits on this one. We have to see both sides of the coin.
The myth bomber
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262027
But the failure of the TN device bothers you (Mr. K.Santhanam)
It bothered me then, it bothers me now. But it does not bother me to the extent that I spend sleepless nights, because in some sense the deterrence with the fission bomb is available. But obviously, Indiaââ¬â¢s nuclear arsenal is incomplete without a TN weapon. Indiaââ¬â¢s minimum credible deterrent remains untouched because the fission bomb certainly worked like a song and, therefore, the minimum part of our deterrent is fully addressed. (But) certainly, we need a thermonuclear bomb, especially for the Agni class of missiles which have a range of 3,000 to 4,000 km. It really doesnââ¬â¢t make sense that you fly the Agni missile 4,000 km and deliver a 20 KT bomb. This will certainly not be in the category of what we call inflicting unacceptable damage on the adversary who attacks us. For sure, we need to carry out a proper thermonuclear test.
Iââ¬â¢ve said that if the opportunity arises we should consider resuming the tests. Ultimately, itââ¬â¢s a political decision and I fully respect that. But if you ask me, I think the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty will be pursued with much vigour by the new US administration. The window of opportunity is available now.
From Arun's articles - India's warhead options are http://www.indiaresearch.org/Shourya_Missile.pdf
FBF warheads
550 kg FBF with 150 kilotons yield
350 kg FBF with 50 kilotons yield
180 kg FBF with 17 kilotons yield
TN warheads
340 kg TN with 200 kilotons yield
PM seeks to rest row over Pokhran N-tests
http://content.ibnlive.in.com/article/29...226-3.html
It looks like top Indian scientists, particularly ones trusted by the government are happy with the analysis and results. If you want another testing, then just ex and current top Indian scientists have the right to make that call. Not anyone else.
From BK's article
"The Agni has to have a minimum range of 10,000 kms to be considered an ICBM"
Any missile with range about 5500 km is called an ICBM.
Tell me something. DRDO said before and after Agni V launch that it was an ICBM. Mr.BK said to the media it was an IRBM. But hats off to Mr BK, if he is purposely trying to divert the attention of non proliferation experts but from his article we can safely assume that he is against downplaying of missile range.
Well the trouble with "all is well concept" as deterrence isn't whether we have a good design. It's two fold, the deterrence is what the enemy feels is unacceptable damage and the utilization of nuclear material and the quantity of nuclear warheads. BK is of the view that both boosted fission and thermonuclear devices did not work as expected. So we must test again.
OperatingSystem man.
[/quote]
Different opinions exits on this one. We have to see both sides of the coin.
The myth bomber
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262027
But the failure of the TN device bothers you (Mr. K.Santhanam)
It bothered me then, it bothers me now. But it does not bother me to the extent that I spend sleepless nights, because in some sense the deterrence with the fission bomb is available. But obviously, Indiaââ¬â¢s nuclear arsenal is incomplete without a TN weapon. Indiaââ¬â¢s minimum credible deterrent remains untouched because the fission bomb certainly worked like a song and, therefore, the minimum part of our deterrent is fully addressed. (But) certainly, we need a thermonuclear bomb, especially for the Agni class of missiles which have a range of 3,000 to 4,000 km. It really doesnââ¬â¢t make sense that you fly the Agni missile 4,000 km and deliver a 20 KT bomb. This will certainly not be in the category of what we call inflicting unacceptable damage on the adversary who attacks us. For sure, we need to carry out a proper thermonuclear test.
Iââ¬â¢ve said that if the opportunity arises we should consider resuming the tests. Ultimately, itââ¬â¢s a political decision and I fully respect that. But if you ask me, I think the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty will be pursued with much vigour by the new US administration. The window of opportunity is available now.
From Arun's articles - India's warhead options are http://www.indiaresearch.org/Shourya_Missile.pdf
FBF warheads
550 kg FBF with 150 kilotons yield
350 kg FBF with 50 kilotons yield
180 kg FBF with 17 kilotons yield
TN warheads
340 kg TN with 200 kilotons yield
PM seeks to rest row over Pokhran N-tests
http://content.ibnlive.in.com/article/29...226-3.html
It looks like top Indian scientists, particularly ones trusted by the government are happy with the analysis and results. If you want another testing, then just ex and current top Indian scientists have the right to make that call. Not anyone else.
From BK's article
"The Agni has to have a minimum range of 10,000 kms to be considered an ICBM"
Any missile with range about 5500 km is called an ICBM.
Tell me something. DRDO said before and after Agni V launch that it was an ICBM. Mr.BK said to the media it was an IRBM. But hats off to Mr BK, if he is purposely trying to divert the attention of non proliferation experts but from his article we can safely assume that he is against downplaying of missile range.