Sanatana Dharma - Aka Hinduism (3rd Bin)

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And yet another comment caught my eye:



vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2298

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6. Hindu students studying in famous Christian convent schools were given extremely negative picture of Hindu dharma, Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, Hindu gods, ahcaras, sankalapas and so on. When asked about her knowledge on Lord Krishna to a Brahmin student studying in Lower Primary School of a famous Christian college, she said “ Lord Krishna is a thief and a womanizer…………… “ When asked from where she got this information, came the answer “ Our teachers give this to all of us”

nitha

16 May 2012

Don't know why Nitha is complaining against christo convent schools, when it's for some time ceased to be christo teachers (let alone the missionaries of yore) saying it.



Koenraad Elst finally decided to just come out and say what one already knew he had concluded all along (but which he's been working towards telling his audience only in phases, getting them to conceed bit by bit). And if any didn't see this coming: more Fool them.

Note it's the *same* analysis by which he earlier concluded other things about Rama and Krishna in public (which Doniger had also said, but for which no Hindus had lent *her* an ear - once again proving that angelsk-speaking Hindus only object to Who is saying something and not What it is they're saying).



The context for the following: Elst is reviewing some "Hinduism" book or something by the Hinduism Today people - you know, that magazine belonging to the foreign movement that, in one of its issues some time ago, was seen *peddling* - as in *advocating* - an anti-SitaRama animation by an anti-Hindu alien which purported to be about "Sita" in the "Ramayanam":



koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2012/03/history-of-hindu-india-for-everyman.html

Saturday, March 10, 2012

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On the other hand, introducing the epic’s hero Krishna as “the eighth incarnation of Lord Vishnu” (p.9) [9th incarnation to not a few Hindoos], without quote marks, detracts from the book’s purpose of teaching “history”. Let alone the secularist deconstruction, even in the epic itself he is a down-to-earth war consultant and womanizer

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But then, such a conclusion is only the logical consequence of the apotheosis line. (En wie A zegt moet ook B zeggen*, nietwaar? De enige weg die voor hen open blijft is voorwaarts. Terugkrabbelen is zeer zeker niet mogelijk (gelukkig maar). Bovendien zou dat je reinste schijnheiligheid zijn...)



* Not all that sure that "In for a penny, in for a pound" is the English equivalent, though it's the only one that comes to mind. Regardless, the NL phrase is the more apt.





Disclaimer: have nothing to do with what Elst etc ever declared regarding Rama/Krishna/....

(But I agree with the erstwhile Romans: the Gods can defend themselves. After all, the Olympic Gods continued to exist unperturbed throughout.)





Elst has more to declare, which I seemed to have missed the first time I came across the link:

Concerning the authorship of the Vedas, the existing belief is noted: “Hindus regard them as spoken by God” (p.3), only to return to the realistic assumption of human authorship: “the holy texts had to be composed well before 2000 BCE” (because by that time the mighty Saraswati had shriveled, p.3), and “a few [women] even composed several of the holy Vedic hymns” (p.5).So, clearly the Vedic hymns were the handiwork of human poets.

(I've heard that the claim is/was rather that the Vedas are the "lifebreath" of the Gods - or something comparable in conceptualisation - a.o.t the "words" of the Gods.)



Vedic hymns are generally considered classes of mantras - i.e. "vedamantras" are called so because they *are* mantras. While I don't know about the origins - if any - of the Vedas, *other* mantras that are in the hands of Hindus of our time and which also Work are still given directly by Gods to various Hindoos. (As a consequence, they're not in any Vedic or Pauranic etc texts and remain unknown to most if not all other Hindus for this reason.) And these are certainly still considered "eternal" by the recipient(s), since these mantras go with/belong with those Gods - who are eternal - and have nothing to do with "when" the Hindoo recipient "received" them.



Hmmm, I suppose ^that^ would/could be another reason why many Hindoos still think that Vedamantras are not originally of human origin either (and that the Vedic Rishis merely intuited - or something - what already existed): because the Vedamantras (obviously) Work too, and because it is *known* of some other mantras that these belong to/with various Gods from whom they have been personally obtained (this being a Living Religion, and all. I mean, if it were a *dead* religion, Hindoos would no longer see their Gods and no longer obtain anything directly from them, obviously.)