Forgot to put this up here when I came across it.
Outlook India via haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=16192&SKIN=C
I'm just wondering why Outlook was willing to publish this. Surely they know it can't be good for christianism's PR, though it's mainly catholicism that is getting exposed in this case? (Maybe that answered my question: maybe Outlook doesn't belong to the catholic brand of christianism and it's internal rivalry?)
Examples of how christianism is always like this. It's never and nowhere been otherwise and won't ever be otherwise.
freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm
freetruth.50webs.org/B3c.htm#Morality
Of course, nothing has changed. Because it's still the same "religion" (ideology): christianism.
And one more:
Outlook India via haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=16192&SKIN=C
Quote:Sex, violence, corruption, insider exposes from Kerala churches - Out Look Cover StoryNote there's many articles in this series at the given outlook link www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281624
15/07/2012 12:11:12
ââ¬ÅLater, Iââ¬â¢m taken to the priestââ¬â¢s room for coffee. While Iââ¬â¢m having coffee sitting on the cot, the only place in the room to sit, he comes and embraces me hard, almost suffocating me. When I struggle to escape from his clutches, he squeezes my breasts and asks me to show them to him. ââ¬ËHave you seen a man?ââ¬â¢ Stunned, I shake my head ââ¬Ënoââ¬â¢. In no time, he undresses himself.ââ¬Â
Sister Jesme in her book Amen: The Autobiography of a Nun
ââ¬ÅThe convents and nunneries are being converted into brothels. The priests have sex with the nuns at night in these convents. Because of these acts, the chastity of the priests and nuns has come under suspicion. Their love for God has shrunk...some of the clergy protect their chastity by watching pornography and reading pornographic material. They lose themselves in this habit. These books and DVDs are kept in secret places and canââ¬â¢t be found easily.ââ¬Â
Father Shibu Kalamparambil in his memoir Oru Vaidikante Hrudayamitha (The Heart of a Priest)
(Look how they have inculturated on Vaidika to turn it into christo-priestism. How did they ever manage to get away with that one in broad daylight?
Then again, indologicals call themselves "vedicists", and dabblers declare themselves "brahmanas", so Indian christianism calling its priests by Vedic titles will surely not be considered *more* offensive or get any greater response from Hindus.)
ââ¬ÅThe cry of a baby came from the bathroom of one of the inner rooms along with the sobs of a woman. We used our might to force open the bathroom door and what we saw would break anyoneââ¬â¢s heart. A nun who had given birth to a child was pushing the head of the baby into the closet. The bathroom was filled with blood. The legs of the child, which were sticking out of the closet, were kicking for life.ââ¬Â
Sister Mary Chandy in her autobiography Nanma Niranjavale Swasthi (Peace to the One filled with Grace)
Read Out Look Cover story Exposing Sex, violence, corruption, insider exposes from Churches of Kerala - www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281624
I'm just wondering why Outlook was willing to publish this. Surely they know it can't be good for christianism's PR, though it's mainly catholicism that is getting exposed in this case? (Maybe that answered my question: maybe Outlook doesn't belong to the catholic brand of christianism and it's internal rivalry?)
Examples of how christianism is always like this. It's never and nowhere been otherwise and won't ever be otherwise.
freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm
Quote:The Vices of Nuns [9th Century]
"...female convents were [no] more successfully regulated [than monasteries], for the Council of Aix-la-Chapelle, in 836, states that in many places they were rather brothels than houses of God; and it shows how close a supervision over the spouses of Christ was thought requisite when it proceeds to direct that nunneries shall be so built as to have no dark corners in which scandals may be perpetrated out of view. The effect of these efforts may be estimated from a remark... of Erchenbald, Chancellor of Charlemagne... that the licentiousness of nuns commonly resulted in a worse crime, infanticide."
-- History of Sacerdotal Celibacy within the Christian Church by Henry Charles Lea (American Quaker historian of the Church), p. 108
freetruth.50webs.org/B3c.htm#Morality
Quote:Christian morality versus that of ancient Rome
Delighted to harp on the "immorality" of ancient Rome, Christian apologists ignore how things were under Christianity. Immorality was encouraged and practised by the clergy themselves:
Quote:in the Middle Ages, when the clergy were nearly all immoral and some owned brothels.
-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe
"In the time of St. Cyprian, before the outbreak of the Decian persecution, it had been common to find clergy professing celibacy, but keeping, under various pretexts, their mistresses in their houses; and after Constantine, the complaints on this subject became loud and general. Evagrius describes with much admiration how certain monks of Palestine, by 'a life wholly excellent and divine, had so overcome their passions that they were accustomed to bathe with women.' Virgins and monks often lived together in the same house, and, with a curious audacity of hypocrisy, which is very frequently noticed, they professed to have so overcome the passions of their nature that they shared in chastity the same bed."
-- Crimes of Christianity by G W Foote & J M Wheeler, quoting historian Lecky
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Quote:From the first century, "the Agapeta, were virgins who consecrated themselves to God with a vow of chastity and associated with laymen, who like themselves had taken a vow of chastity. ... It resulted in abuses and scandals. ... St. Jerome [about 400] asked indignantly, 'Why was this pest of Agapette introduced into the Church?' St. Cyprian shows that abuses of this kind developed in Africa and the East.** The Council of Ancyra, in 314, forbade virgins consecrated to God to thus live with men as sisters. This did not correct the practice entirely, for St. Jerome arraigns Syrian monks for living in cities with Christian virgins. These Agapetae are sometimes confounded with the Subintroductae, or women who lived with clerics without marriage." (202.)
[color="#800080"](Appears once more to refer to "east" within the empire and its relevant bounds: Syria, Armenia, North-Africa etc. That is, the parts that had converted earliest and most seriously to christianism.)[/color]
St. Cyprian, On the State of the Church, just before the Decian persecution (c. 250), admits: "There was no true devotion in the priests. ... That the simple were deluded, and the brethren circumverited by craft and fraud. That great numbers of the bishops ... were eager only to heap up money, to seize people's lands by treachery and fraud, and to increase their stock by exorbitant usury." (Quoted by Middleton, Free Inquiry, Int. Disc. lxvii-ix.)
"Solicitation, in canon law, is the crime of making use of the Sacrament of Penance for the purpose of drawing others into sins of lust. Numerous popes have denounced this crime vehemently, and decreed punishments for its commission ... in connection with the Confessional, during or before" (xiv, 134). "The crime of abduction was, doubtless, extremely rare among the early Christians. In the fourth century, when men grew bolder, the number of wife-captors became exceedingly numerous. To cheek this" -- a long line of Church enactments listed, down to the Council of Trent (1500's) was futile.
-- Forgery in Christianity. A Documented Record of the Foundations of the Christian Religion, by Joseph Wheless, citing the Catholic Encyclopaedia unless otherwise specified
Quote:During the reign of Pope Damasus I (366-383):
The biblical scholar and ascetic St Jerome (c342-420) warned the women of Rome that the Catholic Church, under Damasus I, was monstrously corrupt. He [color="#0000FF"]claimed that priests, monks, professional virgins all were debauched and that they engaged in "love feasts" - orgies - in churches[/color] on saints' days. Virgins "fall every day" he wrote in a letter to an aristocratic woman called Eustochium, warning her to avoid the pontiff's flock.
In another epistle, Jerome said that men became priests and deacons "so that they may see women more freely".
Jerome warned one Roman woman to never remain alone in a room with a priest. Should she find herself in such a situation, the woman was told to "plead that either her bowels or bladder needed relieving".
Christian women were not to be trusted either, according to Jerome. "Never enter the house or be in their company alone," he said.
To Jerome, the only women of virtue to be seen on the streets of Rome were not Christians but pagans.
From the mouth of Saint Jerome himself: he had to admit that the pagans were better behaved than the Christians.
See also: the section on Popes.
Of course, nothing has changed. Because it's still the same "religion" (ideology): christianism.
And one more:
Quote:[archives.weirdload.com/mmonk.html Site belongs to a de-baptised American who was abused by christian priests as a child]
"Maria Monk Reconsidered
...IN 1836, a controversial book exploded upon the scene like an artillery shell, written by a woman who had supposedly fled the revered Hotel Dieu nunnery in Montreal, Canada. It bore the title, Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk, or, The Hidden Secrets of a Nunââ¬â¢s Life in a Convent Exposed! The book immediately touched off an acrimonious firestorm of wild polemics with its sensational allegations. And no wonder ââ¬â for [color="#0000FF"]the author, ââ¬ÅMaria Monkââ¬Â, claimed that in the many years that she had been enclosed there in the cloister of the ââ¬ÅBlack Nuns,ââ¬Â as the sable-clad Sisters of Charity were called, she had witnessed or been subjected to a number of horrific crimes and abuses.[/color]
...In the light of modern revelations and nunsploitation movies, 19th Century tales of immorality and crimes in Roman Catholic convents appear far less fantastic.
...Priests, Monk claimed, under the pretext that such godly men could not sin, regularly used nuns for sex in a private room reserved for ââ¬Åholy retreats.ââ¬Â On the very day she took her solemn vows, she said that she herself had been forced to have intercourse with three priests, and once again with the first for good measure. More on that later.
[color="#0000FF"]Monk said she had personally witnessed an offspring from such a union being immediately baptized after birth, nonchalantly suffocated, and tossed into a pit of lime in the basement (where there were presumably others), with acid later added to dissolve the tiny corpse. A ledger she found in the Superiorââ¬â¢s office listed many more.[/color]
...Meanwhile in this hell on Earth, the sisters were expected to constantly spy on each other and inform the Mother Superior of any defects, disobedience, or independence in themselves or others. Yet lying to outsiders was encouraged insofar as it would further the faith ââ¬â especially if it brought in wealthy new recruits."