I'm aware this thread is called "DMK's and AP Target - Hindu Temples"
But now a worse threat looms over Hindu temples. Much much worse. Hindoos should be afraid, because this is deeply bad.
A bunch of unheathen losers (Hindu of course) - looking to recapture their ancestors' heathen "culture" (warning bells) - are threatening to invade Hindu temples. In other words, for sentimental reasons, nostalgia, to claim a share in [ancestral] "culture" (or something). Menopause seems to be hitting Indians earlier this generation. (Is this a dietary thing?)
Better description: BR-types threatening to invade Hindu temples. ("BR-types" is such a great phrase! It so accurately describes them! I know it's almost mean, but it's true, therefore one can't fault it, or me for saying it.)
www.sandeepweb.com/2012/10/16/on-the-need-to-revive-the-temple-culture/
Apparently the Hindoo practise of Hindoos visiting Hindu temples is now something called "Temple Culture". One that is moreover in need of ... uh "reviving". By unheathen Hindus. You know the kind.
It's like the uh.. "rediscovery" of Karnatik Music and of Hindu "art" - after Koenraad Elst (and gang) told nationalistic Hindus they needed to be into doing that sort of thing. (So where was their brain until that time?)
And you thought the article's title was scary. It gets much worse. ("How is this even possible?")
You know the poor Hindoos heathens are in deep trouble when you read the angelsk-powered alienated post-independence "nationalism=Hinduism" generation (etc etc) start their threats with:
Honestly, is it? Then easy. I don't know *anyone* like that. Anyone. Because I don't know any losers. (I mean in real life. Obviously not counting online which is apparently chock-full of loser vocalists, as seen just above, and which is where all the worst of the "we're Hindus, which means anything really" brigade seems to congregate. But I don't need to count them, as I don't make friends online.)
Oh and contrary to the soundbite excerpted above, the Hindoo temples are about the Hindoo Gods. Hardly the concern of "spiritual" persons threatening "belief" in something called "god" (whatever).
I'm still pinching myself to wake up out of this nightmare. But like the worst kind of nightmare, this one seems pretty real.
Ach nee, bij Donar, they've "discovered" Hindu temples. Now they're going to raid Kovils with their loser BR-ness. [And then next they will all "discover" Karnatik music and threaten to talk about that too (AAaahhhhhh). <- And that will be almost worse than all the Hindu nationalists/whatever writing reams about "art" AKA playing the experts at art connaissance the way they aren't experts at making any. (You know how the phrase goes: "Those that *can't*, talk about it?" <- And that coincidentally is what I always think when I hear of "art connaisseur" type Hindus writing about Hindu "art"/kovil architecture. Privately, I laugh at them. Hysterically. But then, I wouldn't know anything about art myself, unless paw prints over the carpet count?)
Man, and I thought alien dabblers were the scariest. Seems I was wrong again. It's the ethnically Indian losers who go about life treating Hindu religion as a fad: they jump on one side of the street when it all seems drab to them, and then jump the other way when the wind changes (when they think it's all no longer passé) and then they suddenly feel they need to "revive" it.
(And to see them use the word "revival": as if the endless stream of loyal-Hindoos who've ever been getting darshanam of their Gods in their Kovils don't exist, and only what the BR-types have been doing all along counts. They're such losers. Losers are *so* the bane of Hindu religion and of the poor Hindoos.)
So now the tourists who've taken a sudden interest in heathenism (with any luck it won't last) are threatening to go around fingerpointing inside Hindu temple sites accompanied by gushes of "ooooh aaaah, would ya look at that? It must be <insert elaborate bookish descriptions of Hindu iconography>". I.e. playing the sudden know-it-alls who've memorised the book, but don't know the first thing of living Hindu religion. (You know, that's the bit where it all works for you? Never mind.) Or even worse: perhaps they will even be making deeply .... "spiritual" (or whatever) expressions when they invade, playing at recapturing their lost Hindu "feelings"/"experiences". And wanting to take an "active" part in the occasion. Eeewwwwww. The Hindoos - i.e. the steadfastly loyal heathens - should file for a divorce from the gangrene. It's high time.
Is Elst's article on "Hindu survival" to blame? The one where he told his new-agey fanclub to "Go Do Hinduism (but remember rituals are really only for social purposes)"? Then does that mean BR-types read Elst? But surely they must have got the notion from somewhere? I mean, they can hardly have come upon the idea themselves as there's not a brain among them? [Sorry. Though the statement can only count as Below The Belt if it were untrue.]
How to send the urgent message to all the de-heathenised losers (on ALL channels) - and I don't care that they're of Indian ethnicity (irrelevant) - that they can do their sightseeing and regaining of "lost identity" outside of southern (especially Tamizh) Hindu kovils. Translation: Get Lost.
I seriously suggest Hindoos of other states issue the same ban, because Hindooo temples are not "Indian heritage" or "Hindu culture". They're HindOO religion. Notice the double-o: reserved for heathens who were *always* - and loyally - heathen.
Because, no NO, these things Do Not belong to "everyone" who calls themselves "Hindu". It belongs to Hindoo heathens only. I.e. those who were *always* Hindoo heathens - from childhood and all through their adult lives - loyal to the Gods. And it does not belong to the loser-type Indian Hindus who dilly-dally between sentimental religiosity in childhood, and foot-loose borderline agnosticism (at times coupled with nationalism) in their teens and twenties, and who then regularly (pattern!) rush back to fashionably dabble in Hindu religion - dubbed "Temple culture" by them now, since doesn't every loser want "culture"? - when they feel the middle-age of 30 or the old age of 40 creeping up on them.
I haven't even read the rest of the article but a glance over it has already shown me they're the self-declared expert kind (they're talking, right?):
- threatening to explain yagnyas to readers (even my old relatives didn't threaten to explain yagnyas to me, but then, they were Hindoos. They just did their thing, and us little ones watched/listened and, of course, played in the background).
- and threatening to explain what Hindu Temples "actually" mean. Maybe Sandeep-type persons will next write all this in pamphlet form and pass it round Hindoos who regularly visit their Kovils, all of whom are clearly in need of enlightening?
Whereas if I want to "know" about Hindoo temples, I ask Hindooooos.
But what is it about Indians that they reach menopause, get all emotional owing to the hormonal changes and hence prone to "finding" (discovering) "religion" at this stage in their little lives.* A la Yoginder Sikhand's even more extreme threat to u-turn - from extreme ant-Hinduness and not merely subversive alienation - into sentimentality, when he hit male menopause/when it hit him earlier this year. (He's even more unwelcome to attempt to revert. But as he sounds Sikh by name, he is probably/hopefully threatening to start dabbling in Sikhism and not Hindoo-ism. Phew.)
I mean, it's not like all these people have suddenly caught sight of the Gods and hence have a valid reason for u-turning into sudden religiosity. No. As always, it is sentimentality - the hormonal upheaval during their menopause - that caused them to hit reverse. One can't take these people seriously. Everything about them is unreliable. They're not steadfast. They have no loyalty. They blow whichever way with the wind.
They have no character. Eeww. They're like faceless entities that you can easily mentally-manipulate.
Nothing more unattractive.
Gangrene.
=Secularism. And Alienation. And Subvertibility. (Self) de-heathenisation. And any eventual sentimental attempts at u-turns during hormonal flux, or because it's the fashion. Or as a last-ditch attempt by "nationalism" to salvage "culture" (i.e. to turn Hinduism into an heirloom of the Undead=Hindus in whom heathenism died a long time ago). Whatever the excuse, it's all gangrene. And gangrene must be kept away from Hindoo temples.
Anyway. And all this is why I know that (=prediction based on educated guessing, I'd be open to taking bets, but -hopefully- I won't be alive to see this happen) when today's and future Hindu generations - being so diluted - have finally killed Hindu religion (by subverting themselves out of it and subverting it), some centuries from now their pathetic ethnic descendants are going to get the brilliant idea of "let's reconstruct Hindu paganism" into their heads. Fortunately, nothing works for aliens, of course.
(A generation can be alienated. But long-term alienation in society produces aliens. I.e. no reversion to heathenism is possible. Heathenism ricochets off their brain.)
[* Must be like how in catholicism/christianism, they "backslide" until they hit menopause and then suddenly become "practising" catholics again and others become "born again" fundy types. But then christianism welcomes and promotes loserness: christianism was never particular about quality, after all, only quantity. Quite the opposite of heathenism, which values quality (of character) above all else.]
Disclaimer: If I sound mean and unforgiving in the above - <- hey, that can be like a one-line description of my person! (maybe I should put it on my CV? It's a talent, no? And one I seem to be forced to use repeatedly online...)
if I sound mean and unforgiving in the above, it's because, when it comes to human qualities, there's nothing one dislikes more than weakness of character (subvertibility/unreliability is included in that). I suspect it's something all humans instinctively dislike.
It's the first thing I sniff people for in the real world, to work out whose company I should studiously avoid.
But now a worse threat looms over Hindu temples. Much much worse. Hindoos should be afraid, because this is deeply bad.
A bunch of unheathen losers (Hindu of course) - looking to recapture their ancestors' heathen "culture" (warning bells) - are threatening to invade Hindu temples. In other words, for sentimental reasons, nostalgia, to claim a share in [ancestral] "culture" (or something). Menopause seems to be hitting Indians earlier this generation. (Is this a dietary thing?)
Better description: BR-types threatening to invade Hindu temples. ("BR-types" is such a great phrase! It so accurately describes them! I know it's almost mean, but it's true, therefore one can't fault it, or me for saying it.)
www.sandeepweb.com/2012/10/16/on-the-need-to-revive-the-temple-culture/
Quote:On The Need to Revive the Temple Culture ë The Rediscovery of India by @Sandeepweb
Apparently the Hindoo practise of Hindoos visiting Hindu temples is now something called "Temple Culture". One that is moreover in need of ... uh "reviving". By unheathen Hindus. You know the kind.
It's like the uh.. "rediscovery" of Karnatik Music and of Hindu "art" - after Koenraad Elst (and gang) told nationalistic Hindus they needed to be into doing that sort of thing. (So where was their brain until that time?)
And you thought the article's title was scary. It gets much worse. ("How is this even possible?")
You know the poor Hindoos heathens are in deep trouble when you read the angelsk-powered alienated post-independence "nationalism=Hinduism" generation (etc etc) start their threats with:
Quote:[color="#0000FF"]How often have you heard this refrain or its variants: Naah! I donââ¬â¢t go to temples. I donââ¬â¢t like going to templesââ¬Â¦I mean, thereââ¬â¢s no pointââ¬Â¦all that noise, meaningless mantras and ritualsââ¬Â¦some are so unhygienicââ¬Â¦I believe in God but Iââ¬â¢m spiritualââ¬Â¦after all, Hinduism is a personal religion and I donââ¬â¢t really need to go to a temple to prayââ¬Â¦.? How often have you yourself uttered this refrain? Answer honestly[/color]
Honestly, is it? Then easy. I don't know *anyone* like that. Anyone. Because I don't know any losers. (I mean in real life. Obviously not counting online which is apparently chock-full of loser vocalists, as seen just above, and which is where all the worst of the "we're Hindus, which means anything really" brigade seems to congregate. But I don't need to count them, as I don't make friends online.)
Oh and contrary to the soundbite excerpted above, the Hindoo temples are about the Hindoo Gods. Hardly the concern of "spiritual" persons threatening "belief" in something called "god" (whatever).
I'm still pinching myself to wake up out of this nightmare. But like the worst kind of nightmare, this one seems pretty real.
Ach nee, bij Donar, they've "discovered" Hindu temples. Now they're going to raid Kovils with their loser BR-ness. [And then next they will all "discover" Karnatik music and threaten to talk about that too (AAaahhhhhh). <- And that will be almost worse than all the Hindu nationalists/whatever writing reams about "art" AKA playing the experts at art connaissance the way they aren't experts at making any. (You know how the phrase goes: "Those that *can't*, talk about it?" <- And that coincidentally is what I always think when I hear of "art connaisseur" type Hindus writing about Hindu "art"/kovil architecture. Privately, I laugh at them. Hysterically. But then, I wouldn't know anything about art myself, unless paw prints over the carpet count?)
Man, and I thought alien dabblers were the scariest. Seems I was wrong again. It's the ethnically Indian losers who go about life treating Hindu religion as a fad: they jump on one side of the street when it all seems drab to them, and then jump the other way when the wind changes (when they think it's all no longer passé) and then they suddenly feel they need to "revive" it.
(And to see them use the word "revival": as if the endless stream of loyal-Hindoos who've ever been getting darshanam of their Gods in their Kovils don't exist, and only what the BR-types have been doing all along counts. They're such losers. Losers are *so* the bane of Hindu religion and of the poor Hindoos.)
So now the tourists who've taken a sudden interest in heathenism (with any luck it won't last) are threatening to go around fingerpointing inside Hindu temple sites accompanied by gushes of "ooooh aaaah, would ya look at that? It must be <insert elaborate bookish descriptions of Hindu iconography>". I.e. playing the sudden know-it-alls who've memorised the book, but don't know the first thing of living Hindu religion. (You know, that's the bit where it all works for you? Never mind.) Or even worse: perhaps they will even be making deeply .... "spiritual" (or whatever) expressions when they invade, playing at recapturing their lost Hindu "feelings"/"experiences". And wanting to take an "active" part in the occasion. Eeewwwwww. The Hindoos - i.e. the steadfastly loyal heathens - should file for a divorce from the gangrene. It's high time.
Is Elst's article on "Hindu survival" to blame? The one where he told his new-agey fanclub to "Go Do Hinduism (but remember rituals are really only for social purposes)"? Then does that mean BR-types read Elst? But surely they must have got the notion from somewhere? I mean, they can hardly have come upon the idea themselves as there's not a brain among them? [Sorry. Though the statement can only count as Below The Belt if it were untrue.]
How to send the urgent message to all the de-heathenised losers (on ALL channels) - and I don't care that they're of Indian ethnicity (irrelevant) - that they can do their sightseeing and regaining of "lost identity" outside of southern (especially Tamizh) Hindu kovils. Translation: Get Lost.
I seriously suggest Hindoos of other states issue the same ban, because Hindooo temples are not "Indian heritage" or "Hindu culture". They're HindOO religion. Notice the double-o: reserved for heathens who were *always* - and loyally - heathen.
Because, no NO, these things Do Not belong to "everyone" who calls themselves "Hindu". It belongs to Hindoo heathens only. I.e. those who were *always* Hindoo heathens - from childhood and all through their adult lives - loyal to the Gods. And it does not belong to the loser-type Indian Hindus who dilly-dally between sentimental religiosity in childhood, and foot-loose borderline agnosticism (at times coupled with nationalism) in their teens and twenties, and who then regularly (pattern!) rush back to fashionably dabble in Hindu religion - dubbed "Temple culture" by them now, since doesn't every loser want "culture"? - when they feel the middle-age of 30 or the old age of 40 creeping up on them.
I haven't even read the rest of the article but a glance over it has already shown me they're the self-declared expert kind (they're talking, right?):
- threatening to explain yagnyas to readers (even my old relatives didn't threaten to explain yagnyas to me, but then, they were Hindoos. They just did their thing, and us little ones watched/listened and, of course, played in the background).
- and threatening to explain what Hindu Temples "actually" mean. Maybe Sandeep-type persons will next write all this in pamphlet form and pass it round Hindoos who regularly visit their Kovils, all of whom are clearly in need of enlightening?
Whereas if I want to "know" about Hindoo temples, I ask Hindooooos.
But what is it about Indians that they reach menopause, get all emotional owing to the hormonal changes and hence prone to "finding" (discovering) "religion" at this stage in their little lives.* A la Yoginder Sikhand's even more extreme threat to u-turn - from extreme ant-Hinduness and not merely subversive alienation - into sentimentality, when he hit male menopause/when it hit him earlier this year. (He's even more unwelcome to attempt to revert. But as he sounds Sikh by name, he is probably/hopefully threatening to start dabbling in Sikhism and not Hindoo-ism. Phew.)
I mean, it's not like all these people have suddenly caught sight of the Gods and hence have a valid reason for u-turning into sudden religiosity. No. As always, it is sentimentality - the hormonal upheaval during their menopause - that caused them to hit reverse. One can't take these people seriously. Everything about them is unreliable. They're not steadfast. They have no loyalty. They blow whichever way with the wind.
They have no character. Eeww. They're like faceless entities that you can easily mentally-manipulate.
Nothing more unattractive.
Gangrene.
=Secularism. And Alienation. And Subvertibility. (Self) de-heathenisation. And any eventual sentimental attempts at u-turns during hormonal flux, or because it's the fashion. Or as a last-ditch attempt by "nationalism" to salvage "culture" (i.e. to turn Hinduism into an heirloom of the Undead=Hindus in whom heathenism died a long time ago). Whatever the excuse, it's all gangrene. And gangrene must be kept away from Hindoo temples.
Anyway. And all this is why I know that (=prediction based on educated guessing, I'd be open to taking bets, but -hopefully- I won't be alive to see this happen) when today's and future Hindu generations - being so diluted - have finally killed Hindu religion (by subverting themselves out of it and subverting it), some centuries from now their pathetic ethnic descendants are going to get the brilliant idea of "let's reconstruct Hindu paganism" into their heads. Fortunately, nothing works for aliens, of course.
(A generation can be alienated. But long-term alienation in society produces aliens. I.e. no reversion to heathenism is possible. Heathenism ricochets off their brain.)
[* Must be like how in catholicism/christianism, they "backslide" until they hit menopause and then suddenly become "practising" catholics again and others become "born again" fundy types. But then christianism welcomes and promotes loserness: christianism was never particular about quality, after all, only quantity. Quite the opposite of heathenism, which values quality (of character) above all else.]
Disclaimer: If I sound mean and unforgiving in the above - <- hey, that can be like a one-line description of my person! (maybe I should put it on my CV? It's a talent, no? And one I seem to be forced to use repeatedly online...)
if I sound mean and unforgiving in the above, it's because, when it comes to human qualities, there's nothing one dislikes more than weakness of character (subvertibility/unreliability is included in that). I suspect it's something all humans instinctively dislike.
It's the first thing I sniff people for in the real world, to work out whose company I should studiously avoid.