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Was this not the psyops thread?





ModelMinority regularly discusses the ongoing, institutionalised discrimination and psyops against East and Southeast Asians by the west, particularly against Asian Americans by WASPy America.



Lots of articles that I hadn't yet read on MM, may post relevant bits from some of them. But for now the following 2 excerpts.



1. modelminority.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=153:why-do-asian-women-date-white-men-&catid=37:dating&Itemid=56



Quote:Asian Women, Caucasian Men

It's a growing trend in the Bay Area's new multicultural world. But these relationships can bring with them social and psychological complications.

By Joan Walsh

San Francisco Examiner

December 2, 1990



[...] Doug Nishida, president of the predominantly Asian fraternity Lambda Phi Epsilon, pulled together a group of his friends to talk about the Asian women-white men phenomenon. Our conversation flashed back and forth between sociological theories and personal angst. Of the four, only Doug has a girlfriend right now, a trend they attribute at least partly to the preference of Asian women for white men.



All four have discussed the trend with friends, with family, in Asian-American Studies classes. They believe American culture - white culture - has sought to emasculate men of color, and see the same impulse that insulted black men with the term "boy" neutering Asian men. "Look at the Rambo movies, or The Karate Kid," says Bryan Nobida, whose heritage is half-Chinese, half-Filipino. "Look at all movies and TV. Asian men are either celibate, sexless or else we're rapists, [color="#FF0000"]someone that a white man should save a woman from.[/color] The Asian never winds up with the woman."



Like many Asian men (and some women), all four believe an urge to assimilate is behind the attraction to white men among Asian women. For Japanese-Americans in particular, the bitter experience of internment during World War II led to "shame about their culture and a strong desire to assimilate," Doug says. His parents were interned, as were Dave's. Both believe that traumatic experience helps explain an outmarriage rate of over 70 percent among Japanese-American women, and it disturbs them.



"If a Japanese-American man wants to preserve his culture, his choices are becoming increasingly limited," observes Dave, who has two uncles who are bachelors. "As an Asian-American, I can't complain," he says, because he thinks all races should be free to date whomever they want. "But as a man, I get very upset. It wouldn't be as bad if white women were dating Asian men, but they aren't." Of the four - all good-looking, funny, articulate - only Doug has ever dated a white woman, which shocked me, even though I know the statistics.



"So it's pretty upsetting," Dave continues. "It's a sexual thing, it's very primal - it's like your turf is being invaded, and it makes you angry."



The others laugh at his bluntness, but they mostly agree. "It wouldn't bother me as much if Asian women were also dating black men or Latino men," Bryan says. "But it's white guys. I've heard Asian women say they only date white guys. And it's because we live in a white culture. They do it for status. It's self-contempt."



Bryan's friends agree that the preference for white men among large numbers of Asian women reflects a self-loathing born of racism. Their consensus is a little too glib - it reminded me of gripe sessions with my girlfriends, in which we trash wayward boyfriends and other feckless men for "being threatened by strong women," "not being ready for a real relationship" and other mantras of self-protection, to mute the pain of personal rejection. But I felt for these guys nonetheless.



Ana Reyes and I are sitting over soft drinks at the Blue Danube, that Caucasian island on Chinese Clement Street, trying to analyze her preference for white men over Asians. At times, she's almost as pained by it as Doug Nishida and his friends. "I'd like to at least have a balance, date some Asians, date some whites," she says. "I mean, how thoughtless can I be, just seeing whites? I know it has a lot to do with socialization - the images of masculinity in our culture are definitely not Asian."



But, reluctantly, she blames some of it on Asian men. There's the sexism problem, but most important, for Ana, is what she calls Asian "conformity." Most Asians, she believes, are striving "for a mainstream life. They're heading towards yuppiedom. They're materialistic." Just then a horn starts blaring outside the cafe. A cherry-red Mazda RX7, just off the lot, has a short-circuit and the fade-coiffed Chinese-American youth at the wheel seems embarrassed but a tiny bit proud at the attention his new car is getting. We have to laugh. "See what I mean?" she jokes.



Yet the stereotyping Ana and I indulged in can feed on itself. It also gives white men more credit than they deserve: There are plenty of white guys driving around pricey phallic objects, but nobody ever thinks it's particularly white of them. "People tend to compare all Asian men to the top one percent of white men - the most elite, the most sophisticated, the most liberal, the most educated," observes Sonoma State's Larry Shinagawa. "They aren't less sexist or whatever because they're white, but because they've had more social opportunities than Asian men, and they're not limited by stereotypes."



Shinagawa and colleague Gin Yong Pang, a doctoral candidate in Ethnic Studies at UC-Berkeley, have coined their own term, "hiergamy," to explain intermarriage patterns, including the tendency of Asian-American women to marry white men. Hiergamy, says Shinagawa, holds that in marriage, people "try to maximize their status opportunities, and their sense of wholeness, in the context of a society that's stratified by race, class and gender."



That's a mouthful, but it works like this: Given a choice between Asian men - who have some economic clout but less social status - and educated white men - who have economic clout and social status, as well as the more liberal attitudes social acceptance can bring - many Asian women would choose the latter. The concept also explains why many white men marry Asian women, Shinagawa says: "They are bright, educated and articulate women, but in the racial fantasies of white men they have always been portrayed as submissive, domestic and sexy - qualities they think white women have abandoned for feminism." White men, in other words, are trading a little public status for some private happiness, a reasonable compromise under hiergamy.



[...]



2. modelminority.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=336:asiaphiles-frequently-asked-questions-&catid=37:dating&Itemid=56



Quote:Asiaphiles: Frequently Asked Questions

From an AsianAvenue Member Site

2001





What is Asiaphilia?

Asiaphilia is the objectification and exotification of Asian culture, including Asian women and Asian men. Often this is done without the perpetrator being conscious of it. On the contrary, he may think that his "preference" for Asian women is a form of flattery and tribute to the Asian culture. But what he has done is created an "other." This "other" is something that he can admire from a distance, that he does not have to engage in full. Essentially he is taking a culture and stripping it of its inherent worth, creating a perception of that culture that serves only him, and is beneficial to only him. He takes what is trendy or convenient and leaves the rest as carnage. This is a false and damaging appreciation of another culture. Most Asiaphiles will defend themselves on that assertion by saying that they have developed interpersonal relatinships with the Asian women they are with, making that women more than a "perception," into a "reality." While this is not a complete fallacy, these relationships more often than not are built on foundations of fetishization. It is very evident from the statement of alleged Asiaphiles on AsianAvenue that they approach women based strictly on a racialized perceptions. Clear examples of this come from members like Asian_Lover who say that "Asian girls are more educated and always dress nice," or Ilikecuteasians who asserts that Asain women have that "cute little Asian accent, and that `exotic` factor." These stereotypes are hamful to our community because it paints us as objects first and humans second, not to mention that these perceptions are complete fabrications of white male fantasy.



Where does Asiaphilia come from?

Contrary to popular belief, Asiaphilia, known in academic circles as "Orientalism," is not simply about innocent preference, like a man preferring blondes to redheads. Asiaphilia is insidiously rooted in colonialism and white supremacy. White men are distinctly responsible for colonialism and white supremacy. This separates white male Asiaphilia from that of all other non-Asians who "prefer" Asians as mates. When white men manifest their desire for Asian women or culture, they are revisiting hundreds of years of oppressive behavior. This prolonged position of dominance in society has created a mentality of entitlement for white men. White men feel that they are not only entitled to the percieved loots of Asian culture, but they feel they are entitled to pick and choose from that culture, as if they were shopping for heritage. The exotification of Asia comes from Western dominance and white supremacy. Thus when white men engage in Asiaphilia, the ramifications and power dynamics are completely different (though no less harmful) than if a black man or white women engages in it. The images of the docile, exotic, mysterious, dangerous, yet strangely alluring Asia is a white male concoction. This image was created to subordinate Asia and create a separatist mentaility to Asian people. Asia was the exotic "other." This mentality justified imperialism and most other injustices against the East at the hands of the West. It is ironic that white men think in order to break that separatist mentality they should engage in the very stereotypes that created the "otherness."



[...]




That anti-Hindu indologist - discussed somewhere on IF - who badmouthed Hindus on some indology list and then sought to exhonerate himself from possible charges of racism by playing the "my girl is Chinese card, so how can I be racist" - note the condescending "girl" drop, BTW - he is a textbook case of an Asiaphile. I.e. a racist by definition (which was merely underscored by his attack on India's native heathens by the way). As all at ModelMinority would instantly recognise. Hindu vocalists should have called him on his blatant racism.

Lots of Asiaphiles/orientalists - which includes indologists - tend to hate Asian men, particularly the heathen kind, including when the Asianphile then marries Asian women (including the allegedly-heathen kind) and/or adopt Asian kids, and even when they settle in the Asian country whose religion/culture they badmouth/dabble in. ALL are textbook cases of racism. See also Dhu's earlier link to Lee Sam-Dol's article at transracialabductees.org on the subject of Asiaphiles' hobby of acquiring Asian women and kids and Asian cultural treasures.
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