Removing The Sheen From Buddhism

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Wait. Isn't G.Sub the one who was seen on IF lecturing - on two separate occasions - that Hindus in West Bengal should give up Kali/Durga and Saraswati Pooja? So why in the world does he pretend to care about the Sinhalese and SL Buddhists demolishing a Hindu Kali Kovil in Sri Lanka? Or is it just a case of "one rule for India's Bengali Hindus and one for SL's Tamizh Hindus"?





1. Anyway, more on that news piece.

haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=18047&SKIN=W

Demolition of Hindu temples - Srilankan Govt. will be responsible if Hindus resort to retaliation

09/11/2013 13:22:07 MEDIA STATEMENT OF DR. PRAVINBHAI TOGADIYA, WORKING PRESIDENT, V.H.P



VHP DEMANDS RECONSTRUCTION AND RESTORATION OF SANCTITY OF

BHADRAKAALI AMMAN TEMPLE AT DAMBULLA IN SRI LANKA





New Delhi , Nov. 09, 2013 – Vishva Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) has received complaints from Dr. N. Kumar Guruparan,Western Provincial Councillor and the Deputy Leader of Democratic Peoples’ Front and Spokesman for the Hindu Front of Sri Lanka against demolition of Goddess Bhadrakaali Amman Temple at the historically inhabited Tamil area of Dambulla in Sri Lanka by Government forces. In Dr Guruparan’s report the following points invite particular attention:



1. Hon’ble Sri Lankan Parliamentarian R. Yogarajan and Dr. N. Kumar Guruparan both appealed to His Excellency Mahinda Rajapakse, President of Sri Lanka, to ensure the safety of the Bhadrakaali Amman Temple at Dambulla;



2. When Government forces in civilian dress along with the monks went for demolition, the Temple Trustee Smt. Lechhumi Ammah requested them to give time till Wednesday for performance of prescribed religious rites for the closure of the temple. But they did not pay heed to this reasonable request and went ahead with their demolition drive immediately on 28th October, 2013 night. [https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.p...ast-night/]



The Working President of VHP Dr Pravinbhai Togadiya in a strong protest against the premeditated pulling down of a living Hindu Temple in Sri Lanka, said, “Vishva Hindu Parishad is deeply distressed to hear news reports that Mother Goddess Bhadrakaali Amman Temple at the historically inhabited Tamil area of Dambulla in Sri Lanka has been completely demolished and uprooted by design. VHP strongly demands from the Sri Lankan Government authorities that immediate steps be taken to reconstruct and restore the sanctity of the temple.”



“During the long civil war hundreds of Hindu temples have been demolished in Sri Lanka . Now the civil war is over. Even in this peace time we are hearing of destruction of Hindu temple which is very disturbing and provoking.”



Dr Togadiya said, “As both Hindus and Buddhists are brothers in Dharma, we do not expect such offense and transgression from our Buddhist brethren committed on a Hindu place of worship. The message has gone all over the world that Hindu Temple has been demolished by government forces along with Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka . We take serious note of this wrongdoing and request the Government of Sri Lanka to refrain from such sacrilege against Hindu places of worship and ensure that such acts are not repeated in future anywhere in the Island Nation, otherwise the Sri Lankan Government will be responsible if such acts invite counteractions by the Hindus.”

Togadiya said: "As both Hindus and Buddhists are brothers in Dharma"... This is a very tricky proposition. *Da* Dharma - aka Vedic Dharma - is actually not the same as Bauddha or Jaina Dhammas, all having different definitions. The latter are indeed spin-offs from the original, but they deviated away from the mainstream and have their own definitions. They can be declared Dharmic religions because they all have a concept of what "Dharma" is - having taken the idea from Vedic religion - despite this concept not being identical for all Indic religions.

Also, Togadiya has a very different definition for brothers/brethren/brotherhood than I do, but maybe we're using a different dictionary...





One of the comments to a VV article lists some details on certain famous Sinhalese who were and are in charge in SL:

Sri Lankan Tamils and Tamil Eelam - III by Thamizhchelvan on 16 Sep 2013

vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=2947

The Tamils are 15.6% of the population of Sri Lanka as per the 2012 census despite what Vas claims in his comment above.



Tamizhchelvam has written a very good piece. The Sinhalese despite their public stance of being Buddhists actually have a Christian leadership. Sri Lanka's first head of Government was Don Stephen Senanayake, a Buddhist married to a Christian. Solomon West Ridgeway Dias Bandaranaike, who introduce the Sinhala Only Legislation in 1956, was born an Anglican Christian and was buried like an Anglican (not cremated as per Buddhism) despite his 'conversion' to Buddhism. Juniusm Richard Jayewardene was also born an Anglican although he 'converted' to Buddhism. Premadasa's wife and children are now Christian. Rajapakse is married to a devout Roman Catholic. As long as the Sinhalese lack a genuine Buddhist leadership, their problems will continue.



The Tamil issue is merely a symptom of the deeper colonial era penetration into Sinhalese society. The Buddhists have no one else to blame except themselves in not knowing who their actual contender is!



4 years after the crushing of the LTTE, the Tamil problem continues to reverberate in the international corridors of power. Why couldn't the Buddhist clergy negotiate a deal with the Tamil Hindus to de-internationalize the Sri Lankan issue?

Karikalan

September 14, 2013

Never doubt what the choice of a christian spouse means. (Or, for that matter, a Buddhist spouse of a heathen king).



I don't question the reports that describe how SL's Bauddha Sangha was quite active in participation of the destruction of the Kaali Kovil, however, as they do that sort of thing a lot. But christianism sure must find their behaviour patterns very predictable, manipulable and hence handy.

Also, christianism in SL has gradually been making the switch to bludgeoning Hindu religion openly and pretending to bat for SL Buddhism. So I'm sure they're in on it too.



But the smoke has started clearing: the LTTE is no longer relevant in SL (though it has migrated to TN India where it's active against Hindus for christianism predictably). Yet the SL Buddhists are still at it.





Wonder how old the Kaali Temple is. The age is actually relevant in explaining the tactic. But I notice the important bit is already stated in this excerpt:

“Vishva Hindu Parishad is deeply distressed to hear news reports that Mother Goddess Bhadrakaali Amman Temple [color="#FF0000"]at the historically inhabited Tamil area of Dambulla in Sri Lanka[/color] has been completely demolished and uprooted by design. VHP strongly demands from the Sri Lankan Government authorities that immediate steps be taken to reconstruct and restore the sanctity of the temple.

Many famous Tamizh Hindu villages and regions in SL were taken over for Buddhism in the recent past. But in those places harbouring a famous Kovil, the Buddhist Sangha usually spends some years starting a "movement" to send Buddhist laity to invade the space en-masse to supposedly "worship" at the Hindu temple. Large masses start arriving suddenly. Hindus think these new-comer Buddhist masses are like the rarer occasional lay Buddhist that popped up to genuinely pay their respects to the Hindu Gods. [Of course the latter type of Buddhist laity is exactly the reason why the Sangha turned its Green Eye of Envy to taking over the temple and village in the first place: Bauddha Sangha doesn't like its laity reverting to the Hindu religion (though Hindus never sought lay Buddhist interest in Hindu Kovils)*] Then, with the Buddhist masses inundating Hindu temples and setting up shop in the locality, the Tamizh Hindu region is Bauddhified, the Bauddha Sangha officially invades, takes over the Hindu temple by force or edges out the Hindu priesthood at the temple and then Bauddhifies the rituals. Then the Bauddha Sangha invents and circulates back-projected myths about how the Hindu Temple and presiding Hindu Gods are "equally" Buddhist. Sometimes silly alien "converts" (dabblers) in SL Buddhism fall in love with these Kovils and the Bauddhification myths and pretend and advertise for the same myths - in order to dabble in Hindu religion via Buddhism - as happened in Kadirgamam's case. And then eventually - when the last vestiges of the Old Religion and all sincerity is killed (by calculation/pre-meditation of course) - the Hindu Kovil and its moorties are replaced by some Buddhist monstrosity I mean monastery or vihara. And then new myths appear: that the place was always historically Buddhist. That Ashoka or Buddha or some Sinhalese Buddhist king from irgendwo had historically instituted the region as Buddhist and it was never really Hindu, etc. etc.

(SL Hindus had documented this for several famous historically-Hindu areas in SL.)

The irony is that the familiar pattern in SL matches things seen Elsewhere too.



* Actually, similar things happened in E Asia to Daoist and Shinto temples and in SE Asia to Daoist temples. But then, Buddhism etc is nobody's ancestral religion.





The first thing Hindus in SL should do is to circumvent the unceasing jealousy of Buddhism/the Sangha. The Sangha in India or overseas does *not* like it when bauddified laity show signs of reversion by trickling in in any numbers into Hindu Kovils or other pre-Buddhist Temples (i.e. Daoist temples, etc). Hindu Kovils in SL must all clearly state at the entrance that Hindu Kovils are "For Hindus Only - not for Buddhists etc. (or alien dabblers)". [Alien dabblers tend to dabble in multiple religions, so they're a great threat too.] Generally too, Hindus should make it clear that the Hindu Gods and their moorties and rituals are Hindu-Only and not for Buddhists who want to dabble part-time in the Vedic religion while still being Buddhist. In fact, Hindus should take a page from the Daoists in safeguarding their religion from Buddhist incursions and inculturation: traditional Daoists don't allow turning their religion into a 'composite culture' with Buddhism.



Of course the moderate SL Buddhists/Buddhist laity will get deeply offended "Why won't Hindus share anymore? Doesn't everything Hindu magically belong to us as well, we will insist Buddhists are a type of Hindu/Vedic too - even though we aren't really." And the SL Buddhist Sangha will grow jealous in a different way. But it's for everyone's own good and more especially for the good and the preservation of Hindu temples to de-marcate clearly. If lay Buddhists pretend to care about Hindu Gods/Hindu temples, they'll not encourage the destruction of Hindu temples at the hands of Buddhism by continuing to tresspass on Hindu space thereby placing Hindu Kovils on the Bauddha Sangha's hitlist. All natives are free to revert of course - though Hindus certainly don't need reverts, Hindus don't missionise/aren't desperate in that way - but lay Buddhists/etc can't have it both ways: can't have the Hindu Gods/Kovils/rituals and yet be Buddhist and hence not be part of the actual-and-exclusively Hindu aka Vedic etc religion. :ultimatum:



The problem with India's missionary religions is that they're always jealous. Never happy, never contented. Forever competing. They're just not whole (else why are they always looking over the hedge to Hindu matters). They get jealous when the laity starts naturally reverting and yet they will also get jealous if Hindus were to ban others' laity from dabbling in Hindu Gods/religion/invading Hindu temples. As a response to the latter case, they'll declare Hindu Gods are "all-Indian" religion and insist that "therefore" they have an equal share (even though their own historical religious leaders booed against these very things for being Hindu.)



For the rest, the missionary religions behave like those elsewhere: trying to take-over/convert government, proscription, inculturation, vandalism, destruction.



Converted laity are always a precarious thing for missionary religions. The sheep can be lost again at any point. Which makes for sleepless nights for the Sangha.

Whereas islam just mows over all other religions, christianism can't openly do that everywhere anymore and instead is forced at times to resort to doing so more covertly and gradually, and under the guise of secularism if possible. "Buddhism" occasionally wrestles with its Buddhist conscience. But ultimately, the missionary urge of ideological warfare wins, and the end result is the same. Replacement.





On these statements from the previous post:

The destruction of the temple reminded the brutal attacks against temples during the times of the Portuguese who were the first European colonialists to occupy the Jaffna and Kotte kingdoms in the island 400 years ag

Uh, even in the last century, the Bauddha Sangha in SL was still willingly involved in this sort of thing. I think others at IF linked to/quoted from instances, but SL sites have documented this in detail. And even as late as IIRC the early 2000s, they were still in the business of shady Buddhist takeovers of Hindu Kovils.

The controversial demolition has taken place at the place where Buddhist extremists targeted a 50-year-old mosque for destruction last year, provoking the Muslims in the entire island.

Oh who cares? Buddhists don't need to be called extremists for blowing up a mosque.

Sometime back, ‘unidentified persons’ had destroyed the idol of the main deity, Kaa’li Amman, and the temple management placed a new idol.

...

Buddhist monks assisted by SL military in civil, claiming that a Saiva temple in Dambulla is situated on the ‘sacred grounds’ of Buddha Boomi (Buddhist soil) demolished the Paththirakaa’li Amman Koayil Tuesday night, without allowing the temple management to even conduct the rituals for the closure of the temple and relocate the idols of deities inside the temple.

So the Buddhist mythmaking has already begun has it? A "the historically inhabited Tamil area in Dambulla" of SL is suddenly declared to be "sacred grounds" of "Buddha bhumi" now.

This seems to be a repeating pattern.

<snip angry retort>



In Korea, christianism picks on Buddhism (and native Korean religion). In India's history (and Swat valley of our time etc), islamania picks on Buddhism.

And everywhere there's a heathenism, Buddhism picks on heathenism. E.g. E Asia, SE Asia, Central Asia, and the Indian subcontinent.

Pecking order.

Heathens may one day have to consider actively/consciously enabling reversion among their own ethnic populations and thus put an end to that aberration of missionising. Else this problem will never go away.