Post 6/7 Loose ends
Pythons/snake worship, African dragons
Python and other snake worship in Africa, where it is widespread, is not "derived" but indigenous (so not from Egypt either) - not that that should be a surprise, much concerning Africa is pretty "original":
sacred-texts.com/afr/vao/vao03.htm
And Africans have narratives of flying dragons (presumably somewhat resembling flying snakes) too as is implied in:
cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Namibian_Flying_Snake
(I think cryptids is a site for urban legend monsters)
Snakes and Dragons don't necessarily refer to the same thing for everyone
archive.org/stream/serpentworshipin211hamb/serpentworshipin211hamb_djvu.txt
(Christo-colonial book on Snake Worship in Africa, with brief survey of occurrences elsewhere)
The Cosmic Egg of Africans
mythencyclopedia.com/A-Am/African-Mythology.html
(But no one was going to claim the cosmic egg is a PIE motif, surely? But ya never know with PIEists. They're so ignorant about the universe beyond their selective and carefully outlined ethnogeography.)
Things that could explain it
Multi-headed giant snakes could be explained by a mental extrapolation of the occurrence of actual instances of multi-headed snakes (which is a naturally-occuring deformity; have a photo of 2 headed snake in a wild-life book):
africagreenmedia.co.za/seven-headed-snake-in-india-real-or-fake-hoax-mythology-and-religion/
And giant snakes could just be giant pythons/boas embellished even more by imagination:
cryptomundo.com/cryptotourism/giant-snakes-of-japan-2/
The Giant Mystery Snakes Of Japan
Maybe Japanese had some bad collective memories from long ago - see below. Or giant snakes capable of swallowing humans and larger animals could be the few freaky last remaining relatives of
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1149743/Picture-100ft-long-snake-sparks-fears-mythical-monster-Borneo.html
Maybe there had been some freakily large snakes in ancient times when these human traditions concerning extraordinarily-giant snakes first started? Could explain aspects of "the Nabau" etc.
Pythons/snake worship, African dragons
Python and other snake worship in Africa, where it is widespread, is not "derived" but indigenous (so not from Egypt either) - not that that should be a surprise, much concerning Africa is pretty "original":
sacred-texts.com/afr/vao/vao03.htm
Quote:Wilfrid D. Hambly, Assistant Curator of African Ethnology at the Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago, the first to produce a strictly scientific work on the question of serpent worship in Africa[5] after a prolonged and careful study, has adduced strong and convincing reasons to the contrary. Hence his conclusion: "Examination of African Python worship in relation to cults and beliefs from other parts of the world provides
[5. Field Museum of Natural History Publication 289, Chicago, 1931, Anthropological Series, Vol. XXI, No. 1.]
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no evidence that Africa received Python worship from extraneous sources. On the contrary, the evidence is strongly in favour of an indigenous origin of Python worship."[6] And again: "There is nothing more than a superficial resemblance between the snake beliefs of Africa and those of ancient Egypt."[7]
And Africans have narratives of flying dragons (presumably somewhat resembling flying snakes) too as is implied in:
cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Namibian_Flying_Snake
(I think cryptids is a site for urban legend monsters)
Quote:The Namibian flying snake is an odd gargantuan serpent that is possibly derived from African legends of dragons.
Snakes and Dragons don't necessarily refer to the same thing for everyone
archive.org/stream/serpentworshipin211hamb/serpentworshipin211hamb_djvu.txt
(Christo-colonial book on Snake Worship in Africa, with brief survey of occurrences elsewhere)
Quote:There is no evidence of anything approaching snake worship in China, unless one is prepared to accept the dragon as a transformed snake.I tend to confuse the two sometimes, and dinos and dragons too. But PIE-ists seem to like conflating snakes and dragons for force-fitting purposes.
The Cosmic Egg of Africans
mythencyclopedia.com/A-Am/African-Mythology.html
Quote:How Things Came To Be. Many myths explain how the world came into existence. The Dogon say that twin pairs of creator spirits or gods called Nummo hatched from a cosmic egg. Other groups also speak of the universe beginning with an egg. People in both southern and northern Africa believe that the world was formed from the body of an enormous snake, sometimes said to span the sky as a rainbow.
(But no one was going to claim the cosmic egg is a PIE motif, surely? But ya never know with PIEists. They're so ignorant about the universe beyond their selective and carefully outlined ethnogeography.)
Things that could explain it
Multi-headed giant snakes could be explained by a mental extrapolation of the occurrence of actual instances of multi-headed snakes (which is a naturally-occuring deformity; have a photo of 2 headed snake in a wild-life book):
africagreenmedia.co.za/seven-headed-snake-in-india-real-or-fake-hoax-mythology-and-religion/
Quote:Hydra
On the more mundane level ââ¬â snakes born with multiple heads are actually not all that rare. They do tend to not live that long though. There have certainly been exceptions in that regard though ââ¬â some of which have lived for multiple decades while in captivity.
And giant snakes could just be giant pythons/boas embellished even more by imagination:
cryptomundo.com/cryptotourism/giant-snakes-of-japan-2/
The Giant Mystery Snakes Of Japan
Maybe Japanese had some bad collective memories from long ago - see below. Or giant snakes capable of swallowing humans and larger animals could be the few freaky last remaining relatives of
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1149743/Picture-100ft-long-snake-sparks-fears-mythical-monster-Borneo.html
Quote:Picture of 100ft-long 'snake' sparks fears of mythical monster in Borneo
By Richard Shears
UPDATED: 13:40 GMT, 20 February 2009
According to legend, the Nabau was a terrifying snake more than 100ft in length and with a dragon's head and seven nostrils.
But now local villagers living along the Baleh river in Borneo [...]
(A tradition about a snake with seven nostrils in one dragon head? Indonesia is surrounded by ocean that contains some of the most poisonous water snakes in the world. Maybe they had deformed looking ancestors or cousins?
While the 2nd photo seems very fake to me, fossils of pre-historical snakes discovered do sound intimidating
[color="#0000FF"]Earlier this month scientists unearthed the fossil of a killer snake that was longer than a bus, as heavy as a small car and which could swallow an animal the size of a cow.
The 45ft long monster - named Titanoboa - was so big that it lived on a diet of crocodiles and giant turtles, squeezing them to death and devouring them whole.Weighing an impressive 1.25 tons, it slithered around the tropical forests of South America 60million years ago, just five million years after the last dinosaurs were wiped out.
Partial skeletons of the boa constrictor-like prehistoric killer were found in a Colombian coal mine by an international team of fossil hunters.[/color]
Maybe there had been some freakily large snakes in ancient times when these human traditions concerning extraordinarily-giant snakes first started? Could explain aspects of "the Nabau" etc.
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