Unmasking AIT

[Husky]

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Brief diversion back to dragons. This is not the main post.



1. In #414, with reference to a quote from wackypedia:

- Another case is of this Erlang also "suppressing a fire dragon that lived in the mountains north of Dujiangyan by climbing to the top of Mount Yulei, turning into a giant and building a dam with 66 mountains then filling it with water from Dragon Pacifying Pool"

Is fire dragon a reference to (a dragon causing) drought?

I actually know this narrative on Erlang Shen but I'd never thought about it in the sense of it an additional metaphorical meaning too.



Anyway, my conclusion of a dragon causing drought is not the first logical one - no one else would have comitted such a silly oversight.

It's supposed to specifically be a *fire* dragon that lived in the *mountains* and which Erlang Shen needed to pacify with *water* from a pool. => Sounds more like a dragon living in a volcano and controlling eruptions.

Like the native American case: blackdrago.com/fame/ihuaivulu.htm "Ihuaivulu inhabits volcanoes. The monster has seven heads and is enormous in size. It is particularly dangerous because it can breathe fire."



In any case, it's not likely people would try to de-mythicise this instance of Erlang taking on a dragon, the way they de-mythicised Erlang vs River dragon as being a human engineer who brought irrigation into the specific river network. Erlang Shen growing into a giant and creating a dam with 66 mountains filled with water from a pool sounds a bit harder to explain away in everyday terms: I'm not familiar with humans even in our age being capable of stopping volcano eruptions let alone in this manner. So I guess that would explain why Chinese de-mythicisation attempts left that one as a "myth" about an actual Daoist God, so that wacky has no alternative explanations.

(Erlang Shen is famous for taming dangerous dragons, BTW.)



2. And that leads to the other native American case of fire dragons which is also interesting: meteor dragons, already seen in the following on the Americas (so not PIE either):

blackdrago.com/fame/gaasyendietha.htm

Origin: Legends of the Seneca Native Americans



About Gaasyendietha

The dragon Gaasyendietha dwells in rivers and lakes locally. Although it is seldom described, it is said to be quite large. This dragon could cross into heaven on a trail of fire, and it could also spew fire. [1]



Some believe that the stories of Gaasyendietha exist because of meteors; others claim that Gaasyendietha is a meteor-fire dragon. [1]

Reminiscent of how the serpentine Hindu Gods Rahu and Ketu are often said to be the head and tail of a comet.





3. The following mentions an African giant sea serpent (and according to some a dragon-like creature considering its bat-like wings) with a horse-shaped head, which fits the common description some populations across the world seem to give for their giant serpentine/dragon creatures:



fuckyeahafricanmythology.tumblr.com/post/14166958244/art-by-kenya-marshall-inkanyamba-dragon-sea

Inkanyamba



Dragon/Sea Serpent



Origins- Zulu

Habitat - Lake Waterfall



The Inkanyamba is a legendary serpent rumoured to be liking in a waterfall lake area in near Piermaritzburg north forests, or at the base of Howick Falls, South Africa.



The creature is described a large serpent with a head shaped like a horse, some have said it has large wings like a bird or even a bat. The Inkanyamba is mostly active during the summer months, and is believed that its anger causes the seasonal storms.

Note again that, besides horse-like head and serpentine body and even wings according to some:

- it lives in a watery space

- controls seasonal storms (and active in summer)





4. Half-human half-serpents are common in some of the oldest religious traditions of African communities.

This next example which I'd likewise forgotten to post earlier, is of the Dogon of Mali who have half-human half-serpent twin-Gods from whom humanity and knowledge is to have come down.



mythencyclopedia.com/A-Am/African-Mythology.html

How Things Came To Be. Many myths explain how the world came into existence. The Dogon say that twin pairs of creator spirits or gods called Nummo hatched from a cosmic egg. Other groups also speak of the universe beginning with an egg. People in both southern and northern Africa believe that the world was formed from the body of an enormous snake, sometimes said to span the sky as a rainbow.

Their semi-serpentine appearance is apparent from:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people

The key spiritual figures in the religion were the Nummo/Nommo twins. According to Ogotemmêli’s description of them, the Nummo, whom he also referred to as the Serpent, were amphibians that were often compared to serpents, lizards, chameleons, and occasionally even sloths (because of their being slow moving and having a shapeless neck). They were also described as fish capable of walking on land; while they were on land, the Nummo stood upright on their tails. The Nummos’ skin was primarily green, but, like the chameleon, it sometimes changed colours. It was said to at times have all the colours of the rainbow.[13] In other instances the Nummo were referred to as "Water Spirits."[14] Although the Nummo were identified as being "Dieu d'eau" (Gods of Water) by Marcel Griaule, Ogotemmêli identified the Nummo as hermaphrodites and they appeared on the female side of the Dogon sanctuary."[15] They were primarily symbolized by the sun, which was a female symbol in the religion. In the Dogon language the sun’s name, nay, had the same root as "mother," na, and “cow,” nā.[16] They were symbolized by the colour red, a female symbol.

And this next link wants to draw parallels with the Chinese and Greek and Babylonian cases

suite101.com/a/the-snake-man-in-ancient-myths-a62717

The Snake Man in Ancient Myths of Africa

According to the mythology of the Dogon Tribe in Mali, Africa, the union of God and earth created the Nummo twins, male and female, half human and half snake. The twins, claims Laird Scranton in The Science of the Dogon, represented the ideal coherence of spirit and matter. They taught man how to weave from the spiraling coils of fibers. The garment thus woven was called "the First Word"(33). It was the Nummo twins as well that taught man the skills of civilization—agriculture, architecture, symbolic language. In fact, Scranton reveals that the Dogons who lived around 3400 B.C. were familiar with 21st Century science. Particle physics, the relationship between light and time, the uncertainty principle, genetics, cell mitosis and more have for centuries been part of the Dogon culture (190-1), a situation that alludes to the possible extraterrestrial origins of the Nummo twins.



The Snake Man in Ancient Myths of China

China's Nummo twins were Fuxi and Nuwa a brother and sister portrayed with [color="#0000FF"]human torsos and serpent tails. They retreated to the Kunlun Mountain to ask for permission to be man and wife. They received divine approval and from the pair came the human race. According to ancient myths, Fuxi was responsible for civilizing his people; he taught them cooking, writing, and fishing with nets. He was the originator of the I Ching and the mathematical square which he derived from the shell of the celestial tortoise.[/color]

[color="#800080"](Compare with African case of the Dogon above. Highlighting the Chinese case as it's relevant for a future post.)[/color]



The Snake Man in Ancient Myths of Athens

Born of earth, Cecrops, whose name means "face with a tail" was half man, half serpent or fish. Founder and the first King of Athens, he ruled the city for 50 years. During his reign, Cecrops introduced the skills of civilization—reading, writing, the census, marriage and ceremonial burial. His sense and sensibilities can be seen in his choice of Athena as the patron of the city because she brought with her the olive tree, a source of wood, oil and food for the people.



The Snake Man in Ancient Myths of Babylon

Half man, half fish or serpent, Oannes rose from the sea. According to ancient myths, he had two heads, one human, and one fish. He had both human feet and fish tail. Despite the monstrosity of his appearance, he spoke human language and taught the Babylonians civilizing skills -- writing, arts, sciences, the establishment of laws, geometry, agriculture and the civility of manners.

5. More on the Chinese Fuxi and Nuwa of Daoism. Am mainly pasting the following as it contains indicators relevant to a future post:



taoism.about.com/b/2008/09/03/nuwa-fuxi.htm

Note the traditional image at the link shows human heads and torsos and serpentine lower bodies that look intertwined - like a DNA double-helix formation (or whatever)

[color="#0000FF"]The first of ancient China's "Three Sovereigns"[/color] was Fuxi, who is credited with the discovery of the bagua - the eight trigrams which are the foundation of the Yijing.

[color="#800080"][image caption:][/color] Fuxi is pictured above intertwined with Nuwa - who is sometimes named as his sister, sometimes as his wife.



According to one Chinese creation myth, Fuxi and Nuwa were siblings, and the sole survivors of a massive flood. After the flood, Fuxi and Nuwa received Divine approval to procreate, in order to re-establish the human race. This was a big job, so in addition to the usual means of procreating, the two were also empowered to create clay figures, into which they infused the breath of life.



On one level, this story can be understood as representing the dance of Yin and Yang - the primordial feminine and masculine energies whose interpenetration births the "ten-thousand things." On a less abstract level, Fuxi and Nuwa represent one of the earliest examples of a spiritual partnership between a man and a woman. Such partnerships are an aspect of Taoist practice in which the often-sticky issues of gender and sexuality can be worked with - hopefully to the benefit (viz. Immortality/Enlightenment!) of both partners.

Note: Typically moronic christoislamics will like to insinuate Adam and Eve and the ubiquitous Deluge motif into the above, in order to declare that Daoism is "(distorted) biblical religion"*, but those motifs in Judaism were shared in common with pre-Judaic related Semitic tribes as well as with 1. the ancient Greeks (apple of knowledge? serpent? check; IIRC see Michael Kalapoulos' site) and 2. with everybody else in the Levant and beyond.

*Very* common narrative. Christoislamics however think they're special/unique/original and that theirs is "history" and everybody else's is "myth". In reality, it's not christoislamic, it was taken over by christoislamism from Judaism which inherited it from pre-existing Levant traditions.

But it's ancient African. It's ancient Chinese. (Besides being also seen in many places all over the Levant.) Etc.



(* Consider that elsewhere christists with their usual half-baked knowledge were seen declaring that the sacred dog-like guardians (Koma-inu) of Shinto temples that make the Hindu OM sound are "actually" declaring jeebus, "because" jeebus is alpha-omega as per the babble - note the encroachment on Hellenistic notions - and OM, as per the christist, is merely the equivalent to "alpha-omega". Alien christist does not know - fortunately - that Shinto got OM from Hindoo religion, else it will next declare that the Vedas are affirming jeebus onlee - by the same moronic christologic.)



Anyway - extract from wacky's Fuxi page:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_Xi

Creation legend[edit]

According to legend, the land was swept by a great flood and only Fu Xi and his sister Nüwa survived. They retired to the mythological Kunlun Mountain, where they prayed for a sign from the Emperor of Heaven. The divine being approved their union and the siblings set about procreating the human race. In order to speed up the process, Fu Xi and Nüwa used clay to create human figures, and with the power divine entrusted to them made the clay figures come alive.[1] Fu Xi then came to rule over his descendants, although reports of his long reign vary between sources, from 115 years (2852–2737 BCE) to 116 years (2952–2836 BCE).



[color="#800080"][2nd image's caption:][/color] Fu Xi, with the 8 trigrams and a turtle, as imagined by the Song painter Ma Lin



Social importance[edit]

On one of the columns of the Fu Xi Temple in Gansu Province, the following couplet describes Fu Xi's importance: "Among the three primogenitors of Hua-Xia civilization, Fu Xi in Huaiyang Country ranks first."[1] During the time of his predecessor Nüwa (who, according to some sources, was also his wife and/or sister), society was matriarchal and primitive. Childbirth was seen to be miraculous, not requiring the participation of the male, and children only knew their mothers. As the reproductive process became better understood, ancient Chinese society moved towards a patriarchal system and Fu Xi assumed primary importance.[1]

In the beginning there was as yet no moral or social order. Men knew their mothers only, not their fathers. When hungry, they searched for food; when satisfied, they threw away the remnants. They devoured their food hide and hair, drank the blood, and clad themselves in skins and rushes. Then came Fu Xi and looked upward and contemplated the images in the heavens, and looked downward and contemplated the occurrences on earth. He united man and wife, regulated the five stages of change, and laid down the laws of humanity. He devised the eight trigrams, in order to gain mastery over the world.



— Ban Gu, Baihu tongyi[2]

Fu Xi taught his subjects to cook, to fish with nets, and to hunt with weapons made of iron. He instituted marriage and offered the first open-air sacrifices to heaven. A stone tablet, dated 160 CE, shows Fu Xi with Nüwa.



[color="#0000FF"]Traditionally, Fu Xi is considered the originator of the I Ching (also known as the Yi Jing or Zhou Yi), which work is attributed to his reading of the He Map (or the Yellow River Map). According to this tradition, Fu Xi had the arrangement of the trigrams (八卦 bāgùa) of the I Ching revealed to him supernaturally. This arrangement precedes the compilation of the I Ching during the Zhou dynasty. He is said to have discovered the arrangement in markings on the back of a mythical dragon horse (sometimes said to be a turtle) that emerged from the Luo River. This discovery is said to have been the origin of calligraphy.[/color] Fu Xi is also credited with the invention of the Guqin musical instrument, though credit for this is also given to Shennong and Huangdi.

[color="#800080"](Are Guqin and Guzheng the same? If so, heavenly sounding instrument.)[/color]



The Figurists viewed Fu Xi as Enoch, the biblical patriarch. According to Mirza Tahir Ahmad, the fourth Caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, all Chinese religions are derived from the teachings of Fu Xi.[3]

[color="#800080"](On that last note: Islamics in China also declared that Confucius is a prophet of allah onlee - :hysterisch: - also in order to claim China for islamania.

But why shouldn't the islamaniacs do backward projection when every other missionary movement does it and tries to get away with it?)[/color]