I was wrong again. About this:
[quote name='Husky' date='28 October 2014 - 07:26 PM' timestamp='1414504106' post='117419']
IIRC, in the American movie of The Last of the Mohicans (epic!), you have the male protagonist tell the female one about his native American (Mohican) adoptive community's narrative concerning the creation of the stars: their God also mourned the loss of his Goddess wife (like the Shinto Izanagi mourning - and afterward coming to terms with - the loss of Izanami, and thereafter producing his 3 divine children). In the Mohican case, their God "drew the stars" in the night sky from the deceased yet obviously still-divine body of his wife, which stars he then strewed across said night sky as a monument to her memory. <- All the poetic wording is from the movie, only lightly paraphrased. This seems to legitimately follow a Mohican sacred narrative and is unlikely to have been invented for the movie, despite the magnificent swelling score playing in the background and playing on the viewer's feelings.
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Can't believe I was wrong. I've watched this movie at least once a year since my childhood, until a few years back. I may have watched it in DE more often than in English (DE channels played it more often), but still...
Anyway, since I blundered in public, may as well admit to it.
Here's the correct version, taken from my DVD*. Starts at about the half hour mark (30:45s):
Anyway, that means I was wrong about my conclusion as well, since the Mother of the Sun and Moon in Mohican tradition is more like a female version of the Taoist Pangku than the Shinto Izanami+Izanagi narrative: a single divine parent who produces the Sun and Moon and life on earth around the time of passing.
* DVD is of course the Theatrical Cut. Heard the North American release is/was only of the Director's Cut, which everyone in NA was complaining about as being the inferior version by far. Descriptions certainly made it sound like the DC was bad... But the theatrical cut is brilliant, IMO, and has lost none of its charm. Or maybe you had to have grown up watching the film the way we did. But it did very well in Germany (Germans are totally in love with all things native American, or were until the 90s at least, so this is to be expected) and even on the Beeb, which both played the film every year in the early to mid 90s. (BTW, the original English audio is -for once- actually better than the DE dub, besides being more appropriate/authentic to the setting.)
And now a totally random image that will distract from my embarrassing error in favour of diverting to pointless head-scratching of "why is it here/how is this even relevant" (it's not):
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(Stolen from some Hindoo female's output. Looks vaguely like it's trying to depict some JP actors, but I could be wrong of course. My own contribution is the rescaling and bad photoshopping together of 2 distinct drawings. I'm unlikely to get sued - being but a poor innocent 4-legged one - but anyone else try it and they will.)
[quote name='Husky' date='28 October 2014 - 07:26 PM' timestamp='1414504106' post='117419']
IIRC, in the American movie of The Last of the Mohicans (epic!), you have the male protagonist tell the female one about his native American (Mohican) adoptive community's narrative concerning the creation of the stars: their God also mourned the loss of his Goddess wife (like the Shinto Izanagi mourning - and afterward coming to terms with - the loss of Izanami, and thereafter producing his 3 divine children). In the Mohican case, their God "drew the stars" in the night sky from the deceased yet obviously still-divine body of his wife, which stars he then strewed across said night sky as a monument to her memory. <- All the poetic wording is from the movie, only lightly paraphrased. This seems to legitimately follow a Mohican sacred narrative and is unlikely to have been invented for the movie, despite the magnificent swelling score playing in the background and playing on the viewer's feelings.
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Can't believe I was wrong. I've watched this movie at least once a year since my childhood, until a few years back. I may have watched it in DE more often than in English (DE channels played it more often), but still...
Anyway, since I blundered in public, may as well admit to it.
Here's the correct version, taken from my DVD*. Starts at about the half hour mark (30:45s):
Quote:(Hawkeye to Cora, both looking up at the night sky"Father's people" is a reference to Mohicans.
My father's people say that at the birth of the Sun and of his brother the Moon, their Mother died. So the Sun gave to the earth her body, from which was to spring all life. And he drew forth from her breast the stars. Stars he threw into the night sky to remind him of her soul.
<So there's the Cameron's monument. My folks' too, I guess. ...>
Anyway, that means I was wrong about my conclusion as well, since the Mother of the Sun and Moon in Mohican tradition is more like a female version of the Taoist Pangku than the Shinto Izanami+Izanagi narrative: a single divine parent who produces the Sun and Moon and life on earth around the time of passing.
* DVD is of course the Theatrical Cut. Heard the North American release is/was only of the Director's Cut, which everyone in NA was complaining about as being the inferior version by far. Descriptions certainly made it sound like the DC was bad... But the theatrical cut is brilliant, IMO, and has lost none of its charm. Or maybe you had to have grown up watching the film the way we did. But it did very well in Germany (Germans are totally in love with all things native American, or were until the 90s at least, so this is to be expected) and even on the Beeb, which both played the film every year in the early to mid 90s. (BTW, the original English audio is -for once- actually better than the DE dub, besides being more appropriate/authentic to the setting.)
And now a totally random image that will distract from my embarrassing error in favour of diverting to pointless head-scratching of "why is it here/how is this even relevant" (it's not):
(Stolen from some Hindoo female's output. Looks vaguely like it's trying to depict some JP actors, but I could be wrong of course. My own contribution is the rescaling and bad photoshopping together of 2 distinct drawings. I'm unlikely to get sued - being but a poor innocent 4-legged one - but anyone else try it and they will.)