No real surprises. Not even the fact that the US - which clearly had a hand (brain) in this - made Ukraine into the "sole" actor now that unfavourable news is slowly coming to light.
Aka deniability: "Ukraine acted on its own, without US knowledge, support, permission or other involvement." (And Ukraine will try to avoid implicating others in their circle, as it mortgaged itself to the west/US and is in deep debt. So - like with mafia small fry who've been caught - Ukraine's not likely to be naming higher ups let alone the godfather behind the crime.)
I wonder if this has pushed back the schedule of the western intentions to turn Belarus into the next Ukraine fiasco (i.e. create civil war in Belarus next, as the first step to make that nation sever its natural ties with Russia)? I mean, the Swedes air-dropping into Belarus masses of teddy bears advertising for the need of "democracy" in the pro-Russian ethnically-Russian nation was hardly some stunt by independent actors. And not treated as one either: IIRC Belarus told the Swedish Ambassador to hie itself home, and recalled their own ambassador to Sweden.
au.ibtimes.com/articles/575087/20141207/malaysia-airlines-mh17-putin-assasination-ukraine-russia.htm
The 3 comments there:
It only ever made sense for the western side to want to down the aircraft. Nothing in it for the Russian side.
This was therefore no blunder by the pro-Russian side: no Russian gain from shooting any such plane.
It was a blunder by the western side. They stood to gain Putin's dethronement.
Anyway, many civilians dead thanks to western nations conspiring to murder 1 man they wanted dead at the price of the lives of a great many uninvolved passengers not even on US/NATO hitlist. So it's time to hang Hang HANG the countries behind the crime (and for their cover-up and for their fingerpointing others instead): Nuremberg I mean Hague tribunals for trying the war criminal nations for their war crimes.
Obama is small fry: just another American president=Mere Puppet. Get all the men behind the scenes at last. Time for them all to demonstrate how the electric chair works.
au.ibtimes.com/articles/575087/20141207/malaysia-airlines-mh17-putin-assasination-ukraine-russia.htm
Aka deniability: "Ukraine acted on its own, without US knowledge, support, permission or other involvement." (And Ukraine will try to avoid implicating others in their circle, as it mortgaged itself to the west/US and is in deep debt. So - like with mafia small fry who've been caught - Ukraine's not likely to be naming higher ups let alone the godfather behind the crime.)
I wonder if this has pushed back the schedule of the western intentions to turn Belarus into the next Ukraine fiasco (i.e. create civil war in Belarus next, as the first step to make that nation sever its natural ties with Russia)? I mean, the Swedes air-dropping into Belarus masses of teddy bears advertising for the need of "democracy" in the pro-Russian ethnically-Russian nation was hardly some stunt by independent actors. And not treated as one either: IIRC Belarus told the Swedish Ambassador to hie itself home, and recalled their own ambassador to Sweden.
au.ibtimes.com/articles/575087/20141207/malaysia-airlines-mh17-putin-assasination-ukraine-russia.htm
Quote:Malaysia Airlines MH17 Shot Down by Ukrainian Jet Fighter to Assassinate Russian Leader Vladimir Putin - Reports
By Erik Pineda | December 7, 2014 2:10 PM EST
The ill-fated Malaysia Airlines MH17 was accidentally shot down July this year by the Ukrainian air force and the tragedy according to new reports was the direct result of Kiev's failed bid to assassinate Russian president Vladimir Putin.
Flight MH17 exploded mid-air and crashed July 17 in a region controlled by pro-Moscow Ukrainian separatist rebels. All 298 passengers and crews, including 38 Australians, perished.
The aviation disaster was suspected caused by a surface-to-air missile fired from the rebels' side that mistook the commercial aircraft for a Ukrainian military plane, which the separatists have vehemently denied.
Also, Kremlin has long maintained that Kiev is to be blamed for the attack.
Ukraine plotted to kill Putin
And in what appears as fresh claims that Kiev has blood on its hands for the numerous civilian deaths, reports from Russia are saying that the Ukraine attacked MH17 by mistake trying to eliminate Putin.
The information came from Russia's television program Moment of Truth and the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper, which the UK-based Daily Mail noted are known as Kremlin-friendly media outlets.
The reports have stated that the Ukrainian air force Su-25 jet fighter was tasked to shot down Putin's official aircraft Plane Number One. Unfortunately, Plane Number One's Ilyushin build, which was reportedly scheduled to fly over the rebel-controlled area on the day of the attack, had an identical silhouette with the Boeing plane that was used in Flight MH17.
The military jet ended up downing the Malaysia Airlines flight instead. Evidences presented by the Russian media reports suggested too that combination of 30mm canon shots from the Su-25 and an anti-aircraft missile that was launched from the ground as the weapons used on the doomed plane.
"Pieces of 30mm rounds were found in the bodies of the (MH17) pilots," said the Daily Mail on its report, somehow indicating that the Su-25 pilot first targeted the commercial plane's cockpit area that was then followed by the missile that blew the aircraft into pieces.
Elaborate conspiracy
The reports identified as well a prominent figure involved in the failed assassination try on Putin. Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi was pinpointed as the brain behind the attack. Kolomoyskyi is widely regarded as a vocal critic and enemy of Putin.
The Ukrainian billionaire is said to have been tipped off that Putin's Plane Number One flight plan on July 17 2014 included a pass over on the same route that was taken by MH17.
Two more names surfaced as part of the plot - Ukrainian top-gun pilot Lt Col Dmitro Yakatsuts and air traffic controller Anna Petrenko. Yakatsuts piloted the Su-25 linked to MH17 shooting down while Petrenko, described by Daily Mail as "glamorous," was said to be in-charge of MH17 when it was flying over Ukraine.
The two have since disappeared and the last sighting of the couple was in Dubai, according to Russian media reports.
Following Putin's annexation of Crimea, tension between Russia and Ukraine remain over the former's reported incursions on the Ukrainian border and explicit support of rebels fighting for independence from Kiev.
The 3 comments there:
Quote:Dan Sheppard ââ¬Â¢ 4 hours ago
It is our duty as Australians to make sure our children reach the age of their own free will and consent, to achieve having the experience of choice in their adult lives.
Our government and its participation in the US / Ukrainian lead propaganda regime of political lies, surrounding the deaths of three young Australians in the MH17 incident (among the 38 lost) is something of a concern.
This is the quintessential aspect of our adult lives, the duty of supplying our youth with safety and security, so they do not have to even contemplate the idea of death or poverty, until later on in their lives.
With supporting the anti-Russian, pro US/Ukrainian Nazism, and its plan to use civilians as a way of starting economic and political war against another that has up until recently been a stable neighbour of the European region, has shown how we have failed as Australians.
The evidence all points at the Ukraine being responsible for this incident, and it about time Australia said 'no' to the evil regime of the West, and be of truth and honour, not the unnecessary conflicts of another way of life.
Where is our democratic fundamental of our right, of whom to support in such events worldwide ?
Doom Sternz ââ¬Â¢ 10 hours ago
US in Ukraine has declared war on Russia, they funded neo Nazi's in Kiev to overthrow a freely elected government and then went about blaming Russia for the destabilisation. As we know from past experience, Washington will pursue its strategy relentlessly while shrugging off public opinion, international law or the condemnation of adversaries and allies alike.
The pattern, of course, is unmistakable. It begins with sanctimonious finger-wagging, economic sanctions and incendiary rhetoric, and quickly escalates into stealth bombings, drone attacks, unlawful detention and torture, massive destruction of civilian infrastructure, millions of fleeing refugees, decimated towns and cities, death squads, wholesale human carnage, vast environmental devastation, and the steady slide into failed state anarchy; all of which is accompanied by the repetition of state propaganda spewed from every corporate bullhorn in the western media.
After all isnt this how it happened in Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, Syria etc etc etc
Doom Sternz ââ¬Â¢ 10 hours ago
The U.S. taxpayer is now totally funding Ukraine's mass murder campaign to eliminate the residents in the area which overwhelmingly supported the previous Ukrainian President.
The US taxpayer is providing the funding for Dmitriy Yarosh's fascist militia's, they are providing the IMF money and now they are providing the weapons, Academi and Blackwater US mercenaries and the CIA are on the ground overseeing the genocide.
This is an all out illegal war by the US who are now openly flouting international law committing crimes against humanity with the EU/UN and NATO full support.
This is pure EVIL, lead by the Nobel peace prize laureate, Barrack Obamma.
It only ever made sense for the western side to want to down the aircraft. Nothing in it for the Russian side.
This was therefore no blunder by the pro-Russian side: no Russian gain from shooting any such plane.
It was a blunder by the western side. They stood to gain Putin's dethronement.
Anyway, many civilians dead thanks to western nations conspiring to murder 1 man they wanted dead at the price of the lives of a great many uninvolved passengers not even on US/NATO hitlist. So it's time to hang Hang HANG the countries behind the crime (and for their cover-up and for their fingerpointing others instead): Nuremberg I mean Hague tribunals for trying the war criminal nations for their war crimes.
Obama is small fry: just another American president=Mere Puppet. Get all the men behind the scenes at last. Time for them all to demonstrate how the electric chair works.
au.ibtimes.com/articles/575087/20141207/malaysia-airlines-mh17-putin-assasination-ukraine-russia.htm
Quote:Malaysia Airlines MH17 Shot Down by Ukrainian Jet Fighter to Assassinate Russian Leader Vladimir Putin - Reports
By Erik Pineda | December 7, 2014 2:10 PM EST