Oh phew. I was afraid to read your post. I thought you were going to call me out on having skipped all the actual maths in the physics/maths books that I had alluded to. (It's true, I'll confess: I took one look at any and all maths/computation and skip-skipped past them. I'll take their word for it that the proof checks out. I mean, I like proofs as much as the next guy - well, there was a time when I did, but only simple stuff of course - but this was like math I didn't even recognise. Pop-sci doesn't always seem to mean what I thought it meant...)
Had I known that you/anyone was going to read it, I think I would have properly spell-checked my posts instead of spot-checking. I seem to have continued my trend of forming nonsensical sentences. It's embarrassing. Will go over them properly and then fix them up if/when I can be bothered.
- It wasn't really an analysis. It was just summarising obvious things that you or any Hindoo would notice if you talked to traditional Taoists. We all know Hindoo stuffs, it's our thing. It is the degree to which there exist parallels in other heathenisms with our own stuff that is interesting. And the differences - which are in the details - is what proves independent origination. I.e. we're all doubly validated: our heathenisms validate each other and independently. Plus then there's physics and to what extent Taoism has provided a good model of the physical world.
I was deliberately quite guarded (more so about Taoism) - and you must have noticed: extremely shallow - in those posts. But Hindoos can always read between the lines of the light fluffy presentation, whereas others won't know to.
- Also the posts specifically weren't about "eastern religions" in general, but only about eastern heathenisms, particularly the ones named. I.e. specifically not about Buddhism or Jainism (or Sikhism). Only about Hindu, Taoist and Shinto religions. (Extrapolated to Shinto religion based on known similarities with Taoism on the matter, and based on traditional descriptions and discussions of Shinto religion elsewhere.) I actually think at least a partial case can be made for Hellenismos, but find that Julian* already made it - he wasn't guarded at all
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* But speaking of his imperial magnificence, though otherwise on another subject, I came to post something bright for a change. Julian said the following, which is taken from official translation, where he conveys the Greco-Roman version of bhakti (the Piety of Hellenismos) by means of illustration/analogies to other relationships:
With the above, the Roman emperor also gives an indication of the nature of the Hellenistic Gods and how we - as non-Hellene heathens - may begin to form a proper view of their nature. Only the Hellenes have a proper perception of their Gods after all and therefore only they can convey this, if anyone.
Had I known that you/anyone was going to read it, I think I would have properly spell-checked my posts instead of spot-checking. I seem to have continued my trend of forming nonsensical sentences. It's embarrassing. Will go over them properly and then fix them up if/when I can be bothered.
Quote:analysis of eastern religions
- It wasn't really an analysis. It was just summarising obvious things that you or any Hindoo would notice if you talked to traditional Taoists. We all know Hindoo stuffs, it's our thing. It is the degree to which there exist parallels in other heathenisms with our own stuff that is interesting. And the differences - which are in the details - is what proves independent origination. I.e. we're all doubly validated: our heathenisms validate each other and independently. Plus then there's physics and to what extent Taoism has provided a good model of the physical world.
I was deliberately quite guarded (more so about Taoism) - and you must have noticed: extremely shallow - in those posts. But Hindoos can always read between the lines of the light fluffy presentation, whereas others won't know to.
- Also the posts specifically weren't about "eastern religions" in general, but only about eastern heathenisms, particularly the ones named. I.e. specifically not about Buddhism or Jainism (or Sikhism). Only about Hindu, Taoist and Shinto religions. (Extrapolated to Shinto religion based on known similarities with Taoism on the matter, and based on traditional descriptions and discussions of Shinto religion elsewhere.) I actually think at least a partial case can be made for Hellenismos, but find that Julian* already made it - he wasn't guarded at all
hock:* But speaking of his imperial magnificence, though otherwise on another subject, I came to post something bright for a change. Julian said the following, which is taken from official translation, where he conveys the Greco-Roman version of bhakti (the Piety of Hellenismos) by means of illustration/analogies to other relationships:
Quote:I feel awe of the Gods, I love, I revere, I venerate them, and in short have precisely the same feelings towards them as one would have towards kind masters or teachers or fathers or guardians or any beings of that sort.<snip>
With the above, the Roman emperor also gives an indication of the nature of the Hellenistic Gods and how we - as non-Hellene heathens - may begin to form a proper view of their nature. Only the Hellenes have a proper perception of their Gods after all and therefore only they can convey this, if anyone.