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Vegetarian Discussion
^ Animated GIF of irresistible four-legged one ^







News seen yesterday. There's a pic of a cat at the link, which may perhaps be the cat of the news report:



msn.com/en-us/news/world/homeless-russian-cat-saves-abandoned-baby-boy/ar-AA8dbF7



Quote:Homeless Russian cat 'saves' abandoned baby boy

Agence France-Presse (AFP)



A cat in Russia save an abandoned baby. © Corbis A cat in Russia save an abandoned baby.



A homeless cat in Russia has won praise for keeping warm a baby boy abandoned in a chilly entrance-way.



The story took place in the town of Obninsk in the Kaluga region, where the baby was abandoned in the entrance-way to an apartment block and left lying on the floor on Saturday, a day when temperatures were several degrees centigrade below zero.



A local cat by the name of Masha that lived in a cardboard box in the hallway "warmed the baby for several hours with her body," TV Zvezda channel reported Thursday.



After hearing loud cries, one of the residents opened her front door and spotted the baby on the floor, with the cat sitting beside it, licking it and trying to warm it, TV Zvezda reported.



"The residents are certain, if the cat hadn't taken care of it, the baby wouldn't have had a chance," the channel's anchor said.



Nadezhda Makhovikova, who lives in a flat on the stairway, told REN TV she went out after hearing sounds as if the cat was miaowing in distress.



"When I went down, I saw it was the baby crying."



When paramedics arrived and took the baby into the ambulance, Masha ran after them, REN TV reported.



Vera Ivanina, a paramedic, told REN TV: "She was so worried about where we were taking the baby. She ran right behind us, miaowing. She was really a rational creature."



Russian television aired footage of the shaggy green-eyed tabby cat, fed by residents and allowed to live in the hall.



The baby, a boy aged between two to three months, turned out to be perfectly healthy. He was abandoned with clean clothes and a pack of nappies.



Police have launched a search for the parents while the baby is being cared for in a hospital.

Animals have quite the ...intuition about fellow creatures. Several cats and dogs have been in the news notifying their human family member - by barking at a part of the torso or otherwise - to have themselves checked out at the doctors, only to find they had a tumor in their chest or some such. Several animals are good at sniffing out cancers and are being trained to catch this.



Even when they adopt animals of other species as their children, they always know that these are other species. E.g. IIRC: a chicken who, in a psych test for animals, had been provided a duck egg amongst its brood, raised the duckling with its chicks. The psychologists were expecting to find that the mother couldn't tell the difference. But for the duckling, when the time was right, the mother hen took it to water and pushed it in as part of making it learn what a duck needed to know: paddling about in water. Apparently the psychologists found it to be a humbling experience: it wasn't as stupid as they had credited it with. But animals generally aren't. I don't understand where many (western) humans get the notion that animals are so very different from us. Humans are an animal. They are specifically mammals and a type of primate. Over-developed sense of imagination, but not really special in any useful sense. Only "special" in looking at fellow animals as if these are aliens and concluding -by default- that these must be very different, only to find - upon repeated, arduous tasks of closer investigation/research - that they're not really *that* different after all, which are conclusions that any sensible person could have reached by just thinking on the matter.



And did people really need a research paper to come out about how fish do suffer pain "after all" (they also feel anxiety/fear, BTW, as per a documentary that I watched about sharks and whales hunting schools of fish), in order to have reached what was the straightforward conclusion that they would feel pain, and that they don't enjoy having their heads severed or being deprived of oxygen. Or live lobsters or eels being tossed straight into boiling oil or water for cooking - I don't think they want to be burned alive. If people are going to eat them fine - I'm not PETA, and was never one to get between one animal (in this case humans) and its food source. But kill them quickly first instead of burning them alive. Given the choice, wouldn't most humans rather be killed quickly - like shot in the brain - instead of being burnt alive without even the smoke to asphyxiate them first? Else why pretend to feel sympathy for all those "witches" burnt at the stake? Or Giordano Bruno. Humans don't need to go out of the way to be cruel. And without even thinking about it, that's what humans do. That phrase - being "humane" - as supposedly the overarching standard of empathy and values is actually doublespeak and means nothing. Humans barely render it to their own species. They don't generally even think of other species' unnecessary suffering at their hands. People might not be able to change their diets - humans are animals after all, and food is the primary pursuit of Life - but how one goes about it is something that can be altered by anyone who cares even an iota.



Hindoos don't require the lecture. Whether they be vegetarian or non-vegetarian, they always have a regard for life. I've noticed this in Daoists too, who are often keenly aware, and you can see it in the well-reasoned explanation at ysee.gr for why the present Hellenes there do not choose to sacrifice animals, even though they could have. It is a very heathen consideration. It is also seen in many western atheists (many of whom have been turning vegetarian by choice). And what's nice is that heathens in general always try to be more and more considerate about their footprint on fellow creatures and nature in general. Heathens of course have no power over the world at large, as it's christoislamic-dominated - where heathens are at the bottom of the pecking order in the casteist christoislamic human hierarchy and are regularly cannibalised by christoislamics. So they can't do much for fellow creatures and nature. Heathens can only control their own actions.* From experience, lots of western non-religious people take inspiration from heathens' views on animals. Unlike PETA, heathens tend not to be militant on vegetarianism, so heathens can plead for respecting other life without insisting everyone become vegetarian or something. Even western people who despise PETA's evangelical (in the general sense) terrorism, listen to heathens on the subject matter of animals.



* IIRC one documentary showed how remote Hindoo Vanavasis who used to hunt endangered animals for IIRC their plumage were informed that these were animals that were highly endangered. And the Vanavasis - feeling such matters keenly, being heathen - immediately gave up hunting these species and made imitative plumage to use in their decoration instead. Fellow-feeling is a natural attribute, that derives from having an innate sense of being part of the world (instead of the biblical imposition of imagining being "in charge" of it), and doesn't require "education"; so christoislamism has had to actively remove it to make people behave differently and view the natural world differently.





The news was:

msn.com/en-us/news/world/homeless-russian-cat-saves-abandoned-baby-boy/ar-AA8dbF7

Homeless Russian cat 'saves' abandoned baby boy

Agence France-Presse (AFP)
Death to traitors.
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