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5. The link in 6 below was found via s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5281391/1/

(a couple more pictures of Brokpa - have to scroll down much further down - but also other populations not seen often enough)

Gayetri

Nov 9 2013, 02:09 PM



I read about Drokpas in an article when I was in school. It is believed that Nazis came down to Tibet to search them :nuts: I think, they look more like Central Asians than West Asians. Here is another Drokpa woman:

(Pretty image - facial features look a bit like Mahima Choudhury (sp?) or Rani Mukherjee to me...)

Vishal Nov 9 2013, 10:04 PM

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There have been reports of Western women coming to Ladakh to get pregnant from Brokpa/drokpa men.

6. Which then also linked to the following. Eewwww doesn't even begin to describe it:



openthemagazine.com/article/art-culture/the-last-of-the-aryans

6 August 2011

The Last of the Aryans

Nobody knows of their real origin or if they are indeed Aryans. But, regarded as long-lost members of a purebred ' Race' settled in the Himalayas, Brokpas attract curious visitors, some of who try to satisfy their fantasy of having pure Aryan babies



(Reminds me of that movie "Europa, Europa" where German nazi women raved on about having "Arische" children for their fuehrer. Ewww.

But check the dates, 2007 and 2011, so nothing has changed.)



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BY Shubhangi Swarup EMAIL AUTHOR(S)

BY Ruhani Kaur EMAIL PHOTOGRAPHER(S)



Tagged Under | Aryans | race | Brokpas

BIZARRE



[img caption:] Tsewang Lhundup, the Brokpa who was pleased to offer his Aryan genes to a German woman desirous of a pure-bred baby



In 2007, filmmaker Sanjeev Sivan released his documentary Achtung Baby: In Search of Purity on the phenomenon of German women travelling to Indian villages by the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir to get impregnated by men they believe to be racially pure Aryans. These villages are inhabited by a tribe called Brokpas, who are rumoured to be the 'last pure specimens' of the Aryan race. Across the world, several people still regard Aryans as the 'Master Race'--tall, blue-eyed blondes endowed with superior intelligence and values.



While Brokpa folklore says that the community arrived here from Gilgit in Pakistan just across the LoC, there is a view that they are actually descendants of Alexander the Great's army, whose Genghis Khan-like sexual profligacy is a matter of legend. Much Greek DNA is said to exist in north India even today. (Uh, Alexander came as far as Pakiland. And the Hellenised part is in Afghanistan, IIRC.) What marks Brokpas out, however, is that they have lived isolated lives for centuries in such an inaccessibly harsh terrain that they seem to have kept their DNA untainted by outsiders. Thus, the tantalising prospect of purity.



Shooting the documentary was far from easy for Sivan. With the help of an Indian colonel, he traced a German lady holidaying with a Brokpa man in a resort in Leh. Back then, foreigners weren't allowed easily into Darchik, the man's village, so Leh was chosen as a love-nest. Sivan had to shoot secret footage of the two roaming around together, and then persuade the lady into speaking to him. The Brokpa man had no inhibitions in being filmed.



In the film, the lady tells us how she isn't the first, and "definitely not the last" to travel this far to have an Aryan child, one who, she imagined, would grow up grateful for the gift of racially superior intelligence. She speaks of an organised system behind such pregnancy tourism, but refuses to elaborate. "It's not wrong, what I'm doing," she says, "I'm paying for what I want."



This half-uttered disclosure leaves your imagination to concoct a trail of shady travel agents having closed door meetings with interested foreigners in seedy offices in Paharganj, a lurid story of the sexual exploitation of naive men of the highlands. Why should only women come to get impregnated by Brokpa men, you wonder. How have their womenfolk escaped a similar fate? The answer probably lies in the Alexander & Genghis Sons and Co theory. The genes, it seems, are passed along only by men. Women are treated solely as incubators.



The German lady in Sivan's film had not only paid the man for his services, she was gracious enough to bring gifts for his family and children. The Brokpa man is happy with the arrangement. "I have no expenses to pay," he says. "I have nothing to lose. I want to keep doing this. My children will come to visit me one day and take me to Germany."

(And you can be an honorary member of the Arische race. No backpeddling though.)



The film doesn't reveal the German woman's face. The Brokpa man though, is easily identifiable. He is Tsewang Lhundup, 32, from Darchik village, Kargil district.



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Tsewang still doesn't know how Sivan found him. He doesn't even know why the German lady chose him. "Mostly, they look for tall people with long noses," he says, "I don't know why they chose me." Tsewang is not tall. Nor does he have a big nose. He is pudgy. "Maybe they liked my behaviour," he reckons.

(OK that's just self-delusion, right? He was a *willing Brokpa*, which is the sole reason he was "chosen".

One can't avoid observing, but what he's doing is prostituting himself. And for oryanism.)



Tsewang is a changed man now, many years after the documentary was shot. For starters, he is now a 'Lhaba' (a shaman or witch doctor). He has gained weight and the respectability that accompanies a healer. People come to him in throngs from neighbouring villages, Buddhists and Muslims with problems as varied as indigestion, insomnia, boils and kids who skip school.



Tsewang is still as straight talking as he was in the film. He stands by everything he said before--for, the truth is the truth, he explains. But he does feel slightly "sharminda (embarrassed)": "One can't openly talk about these things." He is a father of four (the four he is aware of and whose mother is his wife). When we visited him, his wife had left the village for a few days. In the film, she implies that she is aware of her husband's German friends.



Tsewang had to drop out of school--having studied only till the 8th standard--after his father passed away, replacing him in his work. His circumstances have played a role in his choices. If the German lady offered him money to impregnate her, the documentary filmmaker offered to help him find odd jobs with the Indian Army. At the moment, Tsewang works in the local water supply department six days a week and attends to patients on Sunday as a Lhaba.



Such is the fate of Brokpas living in Dha, Hanu, Darchik, Garkon and other closeby villages--far away places that inhabit the margins of India's national consciousness.



They qualify as exotic on most counts, beginning with the elaborate floral head-dresses the women wear even when they work in the fields, reminding you of how the Mexican painter Frida Kahlo dressed and her choice of colours. The head-dress includes rows of coins stitched together for ornamentation, with some dating as far back as 1890, and bright ribbons. Even the men sport a flower or two. Brokpas not only look and dress 'exotic', they also behave differently. The local deity worshipped here abhors cows and chicken, hence both are considered taboo, villagers explain. Some of this is changing, though, under the influence of Buddhism and Islam. Fraternal polyandry--with brothers sharing a wife--is also prevalent in the Brokpa community, but instances of this phenomenon have gone down considerably now.



(On the last sentence: Trying to establish a tenuous link with the MBh may perhaps not be relevant to the now-Bauddhised but once-Bon people? Especially as Fraternal Polyandry is common in Tibet too - where it is a remnant of a once-Bon society.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_culture

'In his memoirs about his life in Tibet in the 1940s, Austrian writer Heinrich Harrer reports encountering nomads practising polyandry: "We were astonished to find polyandry practised among the nomads." "When several brothers share the same wife, the eldest is always the master in the household and the others have rights only when he is away or amusing himself elsewhere."[13]')



Typecasting Brokpas as 'exotic' has been so overdone, however, that even Mona Bhan, an anthropologist studying the community for almost a decade, is weary of speaking about them. "I have been quoted out of context by journalists and filmmakers who visit Brokpa villages with the sole purpose of realising their own fantasies of a pure Aryan race," says the assistant professor of anthropology at Depauw University, Indiana, US, "a fantasy deeply rooted in our persistent yet unspoken obsession with race as a marker of identity and otherness."



However, to an outsider, the customs and appearance of Brokpas only provide further evidence of their 'exotic' lineage.



Most tourist guidebooks and eager villagers highlight the traditional Brokpa abhorrence of the cow, be it cow's milk or beef, as a sign of their uniqueness. How this uniqueness fits in with the Aryan image, a race popularly deemed to be of cattle herders in olden days, these guidebooks don't explain.



The theory claiming Brokpas to be Aryans, says Bhan, is a legacy of the British, who were deeply invested in racial categorisation for purposes of exercising authority, not just marking identity. She is currently writing a book that explicitly tackles this complex relationship between race and colonial governance. "Several Company Orientalists, scholars who worked for the colonial enterprise, played an instrumental role in popularising perceptions of Aryanism in the Northwestern Himalayas," she says. "They based it on an ill-conceived framework that conflated racial frameworks of identity with the region's 'distinctive' linguistic features. Since certain languages spoken in the Northwestern Himalayas were thought to share similarities with other Indo-Aryan languages, the speakers of these languages were also categorised as Aryans."



(How easily - and in what a short period of time - the aliens change self-perceptions and known histories of populations. Can even see it in other Indians' fawning over oryanism and wanting to be part of it. But glad the Brits got bitten by oryanism themselves. And got all aliens bitten. Also own fault.)



Among Brokpas themselves, an awareness of their 'Aryanness' has spread far and wide with the influx of tourists and others drawn by the tag. Within just decades, the process of exoticising is firmly and disturbingly in place. Aware of Aryan looks and cultural traits, Brokpas are now seen to seek these out in themselves.



When we enter Darchik village, a local tells us about how tall his grandfather was, how Aryan his physique was. He says this because he himself is a short, thin man, rather like a Tibetan. He also shows us photographs on his mobile phone of a fair, blue-eyed girl who lives here, for he himself has dark-brown eyes. In all the travelogues and photo essays on this community, you will not find this man, or the likes of him. Photographers prefer to follow him to the blue-eyed girl's house, and writers prefer to speak of his large, broad-shouldered grandfather.



The promise of an Aryan experience brings in a fair share of visitors to these villages, ranging from curious backpackers, aggressive journalists and researchers to people seeking the extraordinary. Tourists from France, Iceland, Austria, Japan, Korea, Poland and even Israel have left their signatures in the guesthouse rosters here. The Army too welcomes important guests and higher-ups here with a traditional Brokpa dance.



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Murli Menon, author of books like Power to Succeed and Power to Relax has researched various tribes all over the world, including the Long Neck tribe of Chiang Mai, Orang Asli of Malaysia and Siddhis of Gir. He's also stayed with Brokpas for around three months, intrigued by a writer's observation that they lead stress-free lives.



Menon recorded the songs they sing at sunset, and plays it in the relaxation workshops he conducts for corporates. "It has a hypnotic tone," he says, "Some people who find it difficult to sleep find it useful." During his stay, he found that Brokpas have fewer addictions than others, their life expectancy is higher, and they tend to lead more active lives. He attributes their fitness to the almost vegan diet they follow, and their joie de vivre to their tradition of singing and dancing.



On his website, Menon has also uploaded photographs of himself hugging the fabled Juniper tree. 'The energy aura of these trees was phenomenal,' reads his note below the pictures, 'One could feel a new vigour in each and every cell of one's body when you stepped onto this sacred grove of the Aryans of Dah.'



Tsewang Lhundup, the Lhaba of Darchik, offers different reasons for their freedom from stress. "We don't have dowry, so there is no tension of having daughters," he says. "We eat what we grow, so don't worry about our meals. We may not be rich, but we are not extremely poor either."



Recently, two foreign journalists reached Dah seeking the story of the Neo Nazi Tourist in search of the Pure Aryan Seed. They were both White women, and went around asking every male they could find, young and old, if they had been propositioned. Since they couldn't find any, but still needed a story, they switched to asking local men hypothetical questions. What if women came looking for the Aryan seed here? Would the men comply? Lundup Dorje, 31, couldn't help but laugh when they posed such questions to village elders. "They asked even 70- and 80-year-olds what they'd do if a foreign woman came looking to breed. One old man replied that he is willing to contribute."



Lundup is a curious man who runs a guesthouse in Dha for backpackers. Through them, he has understood why foreigners are so interested in Aryans. "In the world, everything is a mixture," says he. "So they are looking for the pure." He may not entirely grasp the nature of such attention, but he is definitely using it to market the apricot jam he makes. It comes from the Land of Aryans, reads the publicity brochure.



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One man who tries to educate his fellow villagers about their ethnicity and origin is Tsewang Gailtsen, a Buddhist Brokpa from Garkon village. He is a lecturer in political science, teaching at the Higher Secondary School in Silmo, a town that also has Brokpas who have converted to Islam, like their brethren on the other side of the LoC. "In Ladakh, 'Brokpa' is considered derogatory," he says. The community is stereotyped as an inferior, dirty, uncivilised people; a Ladakhi proverb warns never to store an axe over one's head, nor have a Brokpa nearby. But tourists, they have an entirely different point of view. "Tourists look at us with respect," says Gailtsen, "They look at us as a pure race, as the few that haven't been assimilated." They help stoke Brokpa pride.



(Yeah well, one man's Oryan Dream is not shared by all.)



In the past, DNA samples drawn from Brokpas have been sent to the Genographic Project. Based on the sample study, Professor Pitchappan, the project's regional director, says that the community seems to be "ancient" and "isolated". However, there isn't enough global data to say where they migrated from. "To discuss their Aryan claims," he says, "one needs to define who an 'Aryan' is first, what are 'Aryan' genetic characteristics. This is very hard to define..."



(Well, it's a problem of relativity.

If the Brokpas are defined as the pure oryans - but funny they don't even have anything like the Vedas despite living a stone's throw away from those that do, and are instead practising what is described by historians as a "Shamanistic" religion - then everyone else's oryanness will have to be measured with respect to them. If the Steppe dwelling E Europeans, say, were defined as the standard, then Brokpas may not be as close to purity as E Europeans. Anyway, oryanism is whatever the oryanists want it to be. The meaning evolves.)



The truth is, no one really knows where Brokpas come from. The confusion is hilariously represented in a blurb on them in a Lonely Planet guide to India. Titled 'Lost Tribes', it says in all seriousness, 'The facial features of the Brokpa (also known as Drokpa or Dards) 'people of the pastures' have led to speculation that the tribe has descended from Alexander the Great's invasion force or even a lost tribe of Israel.' That is as good as saying these people could have come from anywhere.



("Lost tribe of Israel" as another alternative to explain where Brokpa "must be" "from"? Since apparently their existence in any location "requires" an explanation for others. You mean like the "Lost Jewish tribe" of Mizos, who - let's be honest - look more like SE Asians or Himalayans than anything middle-eastern, but mustn't let such obvious matters - that are staring people in the face - stop monotheisms from projecting biblical stories onto them. I mean, if Mizos can be deluded=brainwashed into thinking they're ethnic Jews/a "lost tribe" or that they ought to be christians, then they deserve to be deluded. And if Brokpa similarly fall for the "Alexander's forces" or "Lost tribe of Israel" or "Oryans", then it's their own fault too.)



But in their search for a Master Race, pregnancy tourists and other curious visitors from all over the world have given the Brokpa self-esteem a hefty boost. Which is probably a good thing. As the professor puts it, "Let them feel proud of themselves, their culture. We need not interfere with their pride. We do not have the liberty."



(No. It's *not* a good thing. It is not their actual culture or actual selves they're feeling proud of, but a false one forced onto them. Their entire self-perception and sense of history has been totally subverted. Now they can join the Losers Club that many modern Indians belong to as well. Same disease. Same infection. Aliens' fault. But glad aliens are hopelessly infected too.)

The first comment by someone going on about how Jats are the "pure oryans" is another example of other Indians having imbibed oryanism too and having the *same* warped self-perceptions and weird sense of self-importance. The extent of the oryan subversion is crazy. And I don't think Hindus have ever contemplated how all the Indics who subscribe to oryanism and perceive themselves as oryans would *totally* have been white supremacists had they but been European and not Indian. (You know this is true.)

Anyway, the mindvirus won't die, but can draw a clean line: People who bought into it, may be stuck in it. And this means all their progeny. No backpeddling allowed.





But why are Brokpa being treated as a precious "scheduled tribe" by the Indian govt, whose 'unique identity' has to be carefully maintained, when this has been totally subverted: their sense of identity is no longer what it used to be, but has been perverted to totally alien notions. They're not what they used to be/were meant to be. What they have become - oryanists, believers in their sudden oryanism - does NOT have to be maintained.

And are Hindu taxpayers' money going to preserving such oryanism? Then again, Indian oryanists will probably gladly pay for more of their "long-lost pure oryan brethren". Indian oryanists are after all no different from alien ones.





Anyway, pity that Bon in India is being subverted too. Everything in India has become subverted.

Silver lining: thankfully, Bon still survives in pockets of China proper (i.e. beyond Tibet). No Buddhist influence. No oryanism either. (The Chinese Bon are not Dards but are Sino-Tibetan.)



But again: has no one wondered why there is a disparity between the "proto-Rigvedic" "pure Aryans" that the Dardic-speaking Brokpa supposedly are, and their Bon religion? I.e. the disparity between their alleged IE ethnicity and the "marked traces" of their non-IE yet "ancestral" Bon religion?

- Is the working theory that they merely borrowed it from their Sino-Tibetan neighbours, while keeping their "IE" tongue

- Or is Bon the next non-IE Asian religion earmarked for conversion into sudden "IE religion" status?



(=the reason for this post).





Methinks oryanists will use the Drokpa/Brokpa to claim Bon as an IE religion next. (They're always envious of any impressive heathenism not yet subordinated to oryanism.)

Wonder to what extent the "traces" of pre-Buddhist religion detected are actually Bon and, more importantly, how far back it goes among them: to what extent it actually is a truly ancestral religion of the Indic-looking among Brokpa, and not adopted. Clearly, they adopt novel self-perceptions quite easily: moving from claiming ancestry from Alexander's men to believing the claims that they're pure Oryans. And they've adopted Buddhism to some degree, so they could easily have merely adopted Bon some time in the past, perhaps not even long ago.





6. In this next page featuring images of Kalash Kafirs, oddly/predictably, all are handpicked images of the most-European looking among the Kalash.



s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5066996/1/

It's always pictures of children only. Show me some adults that fair.



Their faces look like Armenians or Turks anyway.

(Then again, Armenia is close enough to that region. Besides, some Armenians look Indian or Iranian, others look Russian. They may have a large range of phenotypes, alternatively Armenia may be so owing to historical factors, like Tajikistan where Russians settled.)



And also one image among them, so far, has been identified as having been photoshopped to turn a Kalash Kafir into a more European-looking entity, as discussed at

• s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5066996/3/
  
  
• s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5066996/4/
  
  
  
  

s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5066996/3/





z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p468713/arya2.jpg labelled "photoshopped"



vs





img.webme.com/pic/i/imtiazalichitral/kalash_b.jpg labelled "not photoshopped" (original)



Oddly/predictably again, the photoshopped version is the very first image that currently appears when googling for Kalash of Chitral, though sourced from somewhere else of course: nativepakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/Kalash-Photos-Chitral-A-Kalash-girl-with-green-eyes-Kalash-Valleys-Pictures.jpg, taken from nativepakistan.com/kalash-valleys-of-chitral-pakistan/



(Must be due to oryanism)





s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5066996/4/

Also, here is the original link. It is the real picture.



img.webme.com/pic/i/imtiazalichitral/kalash_b.jpg



Indians don't want to make them look darker and none of the Euros portray them as very Euro looking other than some "Aryan wannabe" fringe minority.



(Actually, Europeans do...



But Indians - don't know about oryanists - wouldn't want to change the appearance of the Kalash, as Kalash are not Indians, they're well ... Kalash Kafirs. A separate identity. With their own religion, own history, distinct from both Indians/Afghans and Iranians/Tajiks. But the Kalash would be a population related to these, since they're in that middle region.)



Kalash might be very fair skinned but the majority doesn't have colored hair or eyes. Brown eyes and brown hair are the majority whether you believe it or not.





Anyways, the reason there are so many blonde hair and blue eyed Kalash pictures online are because the travelers and foreigners snapping pictures of Kalash tend to focus on the more "exotic" blonde hair/red haired and blue/green eyed ones rather than the more average brown/black haired and brown eyed ones.



These women and children are more representative of the Kalash than the ones below.

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(Lots of images)

Also, were there any photos from before the nazi era that give an indication of Kalash' appearance? What if German/Euro nazi tourists went off to breed with the Kalash in exchange for remuneration too - as they're doing with the Brokpa - or even settled there, in search of more "pure oryanism"?

Have to wonder now.

Also, that other person's question was actually valid and is related: why do the pictures of the fair-haired/most European looking persons tend to be of youngsters? Are they recent products of opportunistic aliens trying to become part of what they think is the "pure oryan" experience?

Or even, are aliens trying to alter the population by interference (easy enough to do with such tiny populations), the way aliens seem to want to project Kalash Kafirs as European rather than as Kalash Kafirs by focusing on the more 'European' looking people among them.



Not really Hindus' problem, I suppose. Kalash can look after themselves - or not (the way modern Indians can't either). But not feeling much much sympathy for allegedly "pagan" people who fall for every subversion in the book ranging from "You're Greeks from Alexander's era" to "You're Oryans". Experiencing decreasing sympathy for Indians too - for the same reason. Subvertibility is unattractive, and is frankly very scary.





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7. s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5281391/1/



One of the images is of the "Rabari" community of India.

Description says:

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Rabari, India: For almost 1,000 years, the people of the Rabari tribe have roamed the deserts and plains of what is today western India. Now found largely in Gujarat and Rajasthan, it is believed that they migrated from the Iranian plateau more than a millennium ago. Their name means ‘outsider’ and traditionally they were camel herders, crossing desert areas that were off-limits to other tribal groups.

Didn't know Iranians looked so very typically-Indian as to be totally indistinguishable from the avg Indian altogether...



On the other hand, Wackypedia doesn't seem to know (yet) of the supposed Iranian origins attributed to them (not sure by whom). Wackypedia does state a different oral tradition among them concerning their origins, however:



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabari

Origin

The Rabari myth of origin is that Shiva put them on earth to tend to the camels owned by Parvati.[1]



1. Street (2002), p. 29

Street, Brian V. (2002), Literacy and Development: Ethnographic Perspectives, Routledge, ISBN 9781134566204

Bose, N. K. (1937), Structure of Hindu Society, Delhi: Oriental Longman

Hmmm. Having said all that, even though comments at the s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5281391/1/ site also take the allusion to "Iranian Plateau" so literally as to conclude that its implication was that the Rabari allegedly came to India from Iran/Persia some 1000 years ago, perhaps merely the full/technical (geological) meaning of "Iranian Plateau" is meant: in which case, it's simply that part of the Eurasian Plate that extends into west of Indus. And west of Indus is still Bharatam, not Persia.



Still, don't know why the description of the Rabaris could not simply have stated that they migrated from a stone's throw away into Gujarat, i.e. within the subcontinent.



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Plateau

The Iranian Plateau,[1][2] is a geological formation in Western Asia and Central Asia. It is the part of the Eurasian Plate wedged between the Arabian and Indian plates, situated between the Zagros Mountains to the west, the Caspian Sea and the Kopet Dag to the north, the Hormuz Strait and Persian gulf to the south and the Indus River to the east in Pakistan.



As a historical region, it includes Parthia, Media, Persis, the heartlands of Iran and some of its recently lost territories.[3] The Zagros Mountains form the plateau's western boundary, and its eastern slopes may be included in the term. The Encyclopædia Britannica excludes "lowland Khuzestan" explicitly[4] and characterizes Elam as spanning "the region from the Mesopotamian plain to the Iranian Plateau".[5]



From the Caspian in the northwest to Baluchistan in the south-east, the Iranian Plateau extends for close to 2,000 km. It encompasses the greater part of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan parts of west of the Indus River on an area roughly outlined by the quadrangle formed by the cities of Tabriz, Shiraz, Peshawar and Quetta containing some 3,700,000 square kilometres (1,400,000 sq mi). In spite of being called a "plateau", it is far from flat but contains several mountain ranges, the highest peak being Damavand in the Alborz at 5610 m, and the Lut basin east of Kerman in Central Iran falling below 300 m.