05-28-2015, 01:38 PM
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The Hindu dad and catholic mum of catholic Malika Arora Khan divorced at an early age for her:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaika_Arora_Khan
The same seems a regular pattern in such marriages.
[quote name='Husky' date='18 May 2015 - 11:18 PM' timestamp='1431970835' post='117741']
mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/Starry-succour/articleshow/47313454.cms
This is a standard tactic christianism uses in India: market christianism as the peaceful 'middle path' between Hindoo heathenism=paganism='satanism' and islamic 'extremism'.
I googled Naghma (a really creepy-looking Paki star appears). That's not the creep in question.
Apparently the christist's name for a non-christian audience is spelled "Nagma"? Avoid the pictures of the hideous entity that appear.
Some details are interesting:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagma
"Freedom fighter", yeah right.
A bit confused how Naghma's mom gave birth to Naghma in Dec 1974 when she had divorced Naghma's dad in August 1973... Unless they were still on sleeping terms? Alternatively, that was a really really really long pregnancy for a human. "Must be a jeebus miracle", no?
Maybe back in 1974 biology wasn't compulsory and so Indian men believed stories they were told about how they could have sired kids that take over 15 or 16 months to be born?
Oh, is the implausible sounding date discrepancy the reason for this apologetics:
I don't care either way about "respectability" (none of my business), but methinks she is stressing the point too loudly - drawing way too much unnecessary attention to it (clearly it bothers her) considering the dubiousness of the timing.
Or is the above - pretending she knew her 'biological father' (presumably Morarji) - merely an excuse to claim she's tried a Hindu upbringing too? I mean, her mother and "father" divorced over a year plus at least 3 months (=15+ months) before she was even born, so methinks she may not have known him that well. And if she had but little Hindu upbringing, that would make her a muslim, and advertising that she picked christianism over islam is no great feat in a "Hindu majority" country like India.
More interestingly:
1. Wackypedia always lists the religion of popular christian stars in unconverted Asian countries. E.g. can see in the case of S Korean converts.
Few S Korean Buddhists etc get identified by their religion (not until the convert, in any case).
Do Hindus' religion ever get listed? Are there any youngsters that are so recognisably Hindu (as opposed to apologetic and only 'Hindu' for their wedding ceremony) that even wikipedia lists this?
2. So Naghma's sister is "Jyothika". Jyothika is that fellow non-southern-origin actor in southern Indian movies of whom an IF member (Shamu?) said she was a muslimah who had married a Tamil actor Surya - of Hindu ancestry - which actor converted to islam (and his Hindu screen name is spelled in a way that feigns islam).
So Nagma would then have been raised muslim too like her sister Jyothika.
That is, Nagma apostasised from islam into christianism. Nothing Hindu about her.
3. And Nagma looks identical to Jyothika IMO , so maybe Nagma's biological dad was husband #2 of their shared mum: "Chander Sadanah", whom their mother married in march 1975 within 3 to 4 months of Nagma's birth. Her mother must surely have taken some time to get to know him before deciding to marry him? Was it long ago enough to conceive Nagma?
(Googling that surname Sadanah, to work out what religion it is, since Chander is spelled a little oddly: the surname occurs in some director called "Brij Sadanah" born in Pakistan who married a muslim woman, fathered islamic children, then killed his wife and himself in Mumbai on his son Kamal's birthday. Swell family.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brij_Sadanah whose wife was "Sayeeda Khan" and "Siblings: Vijay Sadanah, Chander Sadanah"
^Oh look^, Nagma's islamic mum married the brother. Seems to be a family for marrying muslimahs.
The son is another interesting case:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Sadanah
Bollywho cinema is one big looney bin of "Hindus" who
- marry muslimahs whose kids become/marry christians.
- marry christians whose kids become christian/marry muslims (Malika Arora Khan).
But I've diverged from the point of this post:
Nagma - though far more of a muslim turned christian (a.o.t. a Hindu turned christian) - is witnessing for christianism, i.e. missionising, like the other christian "stars" listed at
mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/Starry-succour/articleshow/47313454.cms
That she and the others at that link are openly christian is a foregone conclusion, as are so many missionary christian actors like Syrian christian Asin (whom "Hindu nationalist" journalist Tarun Vijay is or at least was extremely infatuated with) and indeed most every christian Indian actor.
Are there even any among younger generations of Hindus who are in Indian 'pop-culture' who are not secular Hindus but actual Hindus, i.e. openly so (since Hindu marks are public by nature)? I suppose there was that Miss India from Kerala, Parvati Omanikutty (sorry, I can't be sure of her surname) but models don't count so much as their visibility to others/sphere of influence is more limited - unless they turn to acting, which many in India do I suppose.
The Hindu dad and catholic mum of catholic Malika Arora Khan divorced at an early age for her:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaika_Arora_Khan
Quote:Early life and background
Malaika Arora Khan was born in Thane, Maharashtra. Her parents divorced when she was 11 years old and the family shifted to Chembur.
The same seems a regular pattern in such marriages.
[quote name='Husky' date='18 May 2015 - 11:18 PM' timestamp='1431970835' post='117741']
mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/Starry-succour/articleshow/47313454.cms
Quote:Speaking of a time when she saw saw a reason to live and was contemplating suicide, she found hope in the Bible. Mumbai pastor Shekhar Kalyanpur who runs the New Life Fellowship out of Juhu took her under his wing before she volunteered to be reborn as a follower of Christ.[/quote]
[...] Baptised in 2007, Naghma took a break from films and claims to have spent every spare minute reading the Bible, and touring little known districts of South India, especially Andhra Pradesh, sharing her testimony of conversion. (aka "witnessing for christ"=missionising) Born to Muslim mother and Hindu father, on Christmas, Naghma believes Christianity always had a special place in her life. She isn't sure if she will return to cinema, when she says, "I have experienced a lot, and I think I will now have no time for anyone or anything but the Lord."
This is a standard tactic christianism uses in India: market christianism as the peaceful 'middle path' between Hindoo heathenism=paganism='satanism' and islamic 'extremism'.
I googled Naghma (a really creepy-looking Paki star appears). That's not the creep in question.
Apparently the christist's name for a non-christian audience is spelled "Nagma"? Avoid the pictures of the hideous entity that appear.
Some details are interesting:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagma
Quote:Born Nandita Arvind MorarjiMum's of the lineage of a "Kazi" also spelled "Qazi" and "Ghazi". Now isn't that a title assumed by islamics, meaning "killer of kaffirs"? Yes, look even indiafacts admits as much: look for "ghazi" here.
25 December 1974 (age 40)
Mumbai, India
[...]
Nagma's biological father was Arvind Pratapsinh Morarji whose forefathers hailed from a royal background from Jaisalmer, later migrating to Gujarat, Porbandar, then Mumbai.
[...]
Her mother hailed from the Konkan region of Maharashtra. She belonged to the Kazi freedom fighter family and her original name was Shama Kazi, but she is now known as Seema. She who married Morarji in 1969 at the CCI Club in Mumbai, but separated from him in 1973.
[...]
After divorcing Morarji in August 1973, Nagma's mother married Chander Sadanah, a film producer in March 1975 with whom she had three children: two daughters, Radhika (settled in the USA) and Jyothika (an actress). Through her biological father, who had remarried earlier, Nagma has two half-brothers, Dhanraj and Yuvraj.[4]
"Freedom fighter", yeah right.
A bit confused how Naghma's mom gave birth to Naghma in Dec 1974 when she had divorced Naghma's dad in August 1973... Unless they were still on sleeping terms? Alternatively, that was a really really really long pregnancy for a human. "Must be a jeebus miracle", no?
Maybe back in 1974 biology wasn't compulsory and so Indian men believed stories they were told about how they could have sired kids that take over 15 or 16 months to be born?
Oh, is the implausible sounding date discrepancy the reason for this apologetics:
Quote:Nagma remained close to her biological father until his death on 31 December 2005.[5] She explained to a Mumbai reporter that "I am proud of the fact that I belong to a respectable family. My mother was legally married to my father, the late Shri Arvind Morarji, at a public function at the CCI Club, Mumbai."
I don't care either way about "respectability" (none of my business), but methinks she is stressing the point too loudly - drawing way too much unnecessary attention to it (clearly it bothers her) considering the dubiousness of the timing.
Or is the above - pretending she knew her 'biological father' (presumably Morarji) - merely an excuse to claim she's tried a Hindu upbringing too? I mean, her mother and "father" divorced over a year plus at least 3 months (=15+ months) before she was even born, so methinks she may not have known him that well. And if she had but little Hindu upbringing, that would make her a muslim, and advertising that she picked christianism over islam is no great feat in a "Hindu majority" country like India.
Quote:[...]
Although the boutique was highly successful and an instant hit, she had to shut it down in 2003 as she had to be by the side of her ailing father while simultaneously honoring her bhojpuri and other language film commitments apart from her spiritual quest, then teaching Art of Living.
She has been romantically linked with former India captain Sourav Ganguly in the past.[8]
She has converted to Christianity.[citation needed]
(Yes, lots of dabblers in the new agey movements of Art of Living and Transcendental Levitation/Meditation become christians.)
More interestingly:
Quote:Born Nandita Arvind Morarji
25 December 1974 (age 40)
Mumbai, India
Other names Nagma Sadanah
Years active 1990ââ¬â2008
Religion Christianity
Relatives Jyothika (sister) Suriya (Brother-in-law)
1. Wackypedia always lists the religion of popular christian stars in unconverted Asian countries. E.g. can see in the case of S Korean converts.
Few S Korean Buddhists etc get identified by their religion (not until the convert, in any case).
Do Hindus' religion ever get listed? Are there any youngsters that are so recognisably Hindu (as opposed to apologetic and only 'Hindu' for their wedding ceremony) that even wikipedia lists this?
2. So Naghma's sister is "Jyothika". Jyothika is that fellow non-southern-origin actor in southern Indian movies of whom an IF member (Shamu?) said she was a muslimah who had married a Tamil actor Surya - of Hindu ancestry - which actor converted to islam (and his Hindu screen name is spelled in a way that feigns islam).
So Nagma would then have been raised muslim too like her sister Jyothika.
That is, Nagma apostasised from islam into christianism. Nothing Hindu about her.
3. And Nagma looks identical to Jyothika IMO , so maybe Nagma's biological dad was husband #2 of their shared mum: "Chander Sadanah", whom their mother married in march 1975 within 3 to 4 months of Nagma's birth. Her mother must surely have taken some time to get to know him before deciding to marry him? Was it long ago enough to conceive Nagma?
(Googling that surname Sadanah, to work out what religion it is, since Chander is spelled a little oddly: the surname occurs in some director called "Brij Sadanah" born in Pakistan who married a muslim woman, fathered islamic children, then killed his wife and himself in Mumbai on his son Kamal's birthday. Swell family.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brij_Sadanah whose wife was "Sayeeda Khan" and "Siblings: Vijay Sadanah, Chander Sadanah"
^Oh look^, Nagma's islamic mum married the brother. Seems to be a family for marrying muslimahs.
The son is another interesting case:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Sadanah
Quote:Parents: Sayeeda Khan, Brij Sadanah
Siblings: Shagufta Rafique, Namrata
Spouse: Lisa John
Bollywho cinema is one big looney bin of "Hindus" who
- marry muslimahs whose kids become/marry christians.
- marry christians whose kids become christian/marry muslims (Malika Arora Khan).
But I've diverged from the point of this post:
Nagma - though far more of a muslim turned christian (a.o.t. a Hindu turned christian) - is witnessing for christianism, i.e. missionising, like the other christian "stars" listed at
mumbaimirror.com/others/sunday-read/Starry-succour/articleshow/47313454.cms
That she and the others at that link are openly christian is a foregone conclusion, as are so many missionary christian actors like Syrian christian Asin (whom "Hindu nationalist" journalist Tarun Vijay is or at least was extremely infatuated with) and indeed most every christian Indian actor.
Are there even any among younger generations of Hindus who are in Indian 'pop-culture' who are not secular Hindus but actual Hindus, i.e. openly so (since Hindu marks are public by nature)? I suppose there was that Miss India from Kerala, Parvati Omanikutty (sorry, I can't be sure of her surname) but models don't count so much as their visibility to others/sphere of influence is more limited - unless they turn to acting, which many in India do I suppose.
Death to traitors.