1. rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2015/06/govt-bows-to-khalistani-protesters.html
- Khalistanis are significantly conditioned by islamics
- Manipur is heavily christian
- So is Arunachal Pradesh. But NSCN = "nationalist socialist (nazi for short) council of Nagaland". In Arunachal Pradesh.
So not just islam, but christianism is on full throttle - concertedly so, from Kerala fishing regions to several NE states and actors at the same time - in their christian agenda of claiming land and their peoples.
So much for Modi-led BJP's development agenda. Soon they may have to think whether are not they can continue to play blind/preach secularism, or to finally take a stand against the christoislamic canker killing India.
2. rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2015/06/quick-notes-peta-support-yoga-in.html
a. "Pagan"'s link to a youtube video of male Pakistanis doing Yoga led to another video of females
"Indus Yoga Health Club for Ladies Lahore Pakistan" of the indusyogaclub's channel
I sampled a few seconds but had the audio. Seems like muslimahs dabbling in yoga divorced from Hindu heathenism. The way aliens have done the same. Doesn't lead to Ghar Wapsi.
So don't know how "Pagan" figures yoga in Pakistan implies they will Hinduise. It has already been de-Hinduised just like Hindu martial arts in islamised Indonesia has been de-Hinduised and declared as "therefore muslim now". And in yoga's case at least, this de-heathenisation has happened with 'Hindus' enabling it, and encouraging it every step of the way. Hindus are famous for shooting themselves in the foot. E.g. many years ago now just before I became a member of IF, at the site HinduWisdom.info - back when it was still known as TributeToHinduism, IIRC - the site's hostess had received a question from a christian SE Asian (Indonesian IIRC) in the comments section. The latter said that her family had converted to christianism - and she herself was clearly a very determined christian - but she was so "impressed" (as covetous christoislamics always are) by Hindu civilisation in her own SE Asia, that said christian parasite asked HinduWisdom's hostess whether as a christian she could still consider herself as having equal rights to Hindu civilisation/'culture' (that is, whether she could regard her christianism as a natural evolution/end-prodcut thereof, thus inheriting all the achievements of Hindoo-dom that preceded it while still being an unnatural christian parasite whose chosen ideology hates heathenism). To which the HinduWisdom host replied - get this - that it was perfectly fine, it was all just "cultural" anyway.
The host was utterly wrong: can't have the cake and eat it too (this goes for all unHindoos - including the other Indic religions - who try to claim/piggyback on anything Hindoo, BTW).
But it goes to show how there is no guarantee of any Ghar Wapsi happening by any christoislamics encroaching on the religio-culture=expression of Hindoo heathenism. More likely they will merely do what christoislamics always do: sneak in, get idiot Hindus to teach them/include them/allow them, and then declare it is magically christoislamic.
Hmmm. If christoislamaniacs of the subcontinent do yoga too, I guess that makes them "dharmic" as well. Nah? (Since Buddhism and Jainism didn't invent yoga either, but merely got in on it later - since they were spin-offs on Upanishad learning, attempting to pointlessly universalise it - but now are presenting themselves as having invented yoga while presenting Vedic religion of having been an invader to the Vedic homeland that supposedly copied yoga from them (the "ur-Shramanas") and oppressed their allegedly "native inhabitant" selves.)
b. thenewsminute.com/article/being-osctracized-supporting-modi-says-tamil-writer-facing-legal-trouble-over-book
Ever since De Nobili, all from American missionaries - both male and female - playing at being "historians" of christianism in India, to even S Korean christian "historians of mission in Asia" have tried to recast the conversion of the Paravas into a more proper conversion that christianism can claim as a success since the beginning.
It was an eye-opener just reading the various accounts of the matter. None of the christian accounts I came across are consistent. There was obvious concealment in them - e.g. an attempt to whitewash the remnants of paganism of earlier eras as 'actually' being "successful" early attempts at inculturation even - which was outed when Indian christo catholic hysterians blabbed the facts of this particular aspect of Parava history, and thereby accidentally set this record straight: the Paravas had actually reverted to paganism in the timeframe in question. But then the same 'Indian' catholic hysterians then went about declaring that they were properly converted thereafter, and worked in their own history rewriting at this stage/concealed other facts like the Jesuits vs Portuguese, inciting severe civil strife among converted Paravas to decide which Euro-christists masters should claim their wealth-producing community. <- This was a bit alien christo authors on converted Paravas' history admitted, but that Indian catholics totally skipped past and that the S Korean christist avoided too IIRC.
Joe D'Cruz - if he 'still respects female Hindu deities belonging to India' as it says above - should just Return Home already, can stop wasting his own time in christianism. He appears to be of the Parava fishing community, so why is he resisting his ancestral Divine Mother, who was a God so central to the Paravas? The Paravas used to be profoundly loyal to their Divine Parents, and even after the first faux-conversion for opportunistic reasons, for a long time they simply continued Hindu religion under a pretense of christianism to the christian colonials and jesuits who came to check up on them, because they never actually meant to convert, they only meant to get rid of the islamaniacs terrorising their fisheries by requesting the Portuguese to help, but which help - predictably - was on condition of their conversion. (No different from the christian carrion fowl turning every disaster into an opportunity for a harvest by requiring conversion in return for relief aid.)
"Hindu nationalists" should IMO really read up various sources on the history of the conversion of the Paravas. Even the desperately disparate accounts by various christian missionaries on the subject is quite educational on how christianism lies, then lies and lies again to legitimise itself and its history in the subcontinent.
Some of the comments on the newsminute article:
3. mediacrooks.com/2015/06/muslim-periyar-farce.html
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timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/JK-govt-allows-separatists-to-honour-Bhindranwale-protests-subside/articleshow/47570074.cms
And on the heels of the massacre of army jawans in Manipur, now suddenly another attack in Arunachal Pradesh:
ndtv.com/india-news/suspected-nscn-k-militants-fire-at-assam-rifles-camp-in-arunachal-pradesh-no-casualties-reported-769464
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- Khalistanis are significantly conditioned by islamics
- Manipur is heavily christian
- So is Arunachal Pradesh. But NSCN = "nationalist socialist (nazi for short) council of Nagaland". In Arunachal Pradesh.
So not just islam, but christianism is on full throttle - concertedly so, from Kerala fishing regions to several NE states and actors at the same time - in their christian agenda of claiming land and their peoples.
So much for Modi-led BJP's development agenda. Soon they may have to think whether are not they can continue to play blind/preach secularism, or to finally take a stand against the christoislamic canker killing India.
2. rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2015/06/quick-notes-peta-support-yoga-in.html
Quote:[...]
(a ) Yoga In Pakistan: Ghar Wapsi next!
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(b ) Where is the Freedom of expression now? Tamil writer (Joe Dââ¬â¢Cruz) facing legal trouble over alleged poor depiction of Christianity, priests and nuns. "I am being osctracized for supporting Modi".
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a. "Pagan"'s link to a youtube video of male Pakistanis doing Yoga led to another video of females
"Indus Yoga Health Club for Ladies Lahore Pakistan" of the indusyogaclub's channel
I sampled a few seconds but had the audio. Seems like muslimahs dabbling in yoga divorced from Hindu heathenism. The way aliens have done the same. Doesn't lead to Ghar Wapsi.
So don't know how "Pagan" figures yoga in Pakistan implies they will Hinduise. It has already been de-Hinduised just like Hindu martial arts in islamised Indonesia has been de-Hinduised and declared as "therefore muslim now". And in yoga's case at least, this de-heathenisation has happened with 'Hindus' enabling it, and encouraging it every step of the way. Hindus are famous for shooting themselves in the foot. E.g. many years ago now just before I became a member of IF, at the site HinduWisdom.info - back when it was still known as TributeToHinduism, IIRC - the site's hostess had received a question from a christian SE Asian (Indonesian IIRC) in the comments section. The latter said that her family had converted to christianism - and she herself was clearly a very determined christian - but she was so "impressed" (as covetous christoislamics always are) by Hindu civilisation in her own SE Asia, that said christian parasite asked HinduWisdom's hostess whether as a christian she could still consider herself as having equal rights to Hindu civilisation/'culture' (that is, whether she could regard her christianism as a natural evolution/end-prodcut thereof, thus inheriting all the achievements of Hindoo-dom that preceded it while still being an unnatural christian parasite whose chosen ideology hates heathenism). To which the HinduWisdom host replied - get this - that it was perfectly fine, it was all just "cultural" anyway.
The host was utterly wrong: can't have the cake and eat it too (this goes for all unHindoos - including the other Indic religions - who try to claim/piggyback on anything Hindoo, BTW).
But it goes to show how there is no guarantee of any Ghar Wapsi happening by any christoislamics encroaching on the religio-culture=expression of Hindoo heathenism. More likely they will merely do what christoislamics always do: sneak in, get idiot Hindus to teach them/include them/allow them, and then declare it is magically christoislamic.
Hmmm. If christoislamaniacs of the subcontinent do yoga too, I guess that makes them "dharmic" as well. Nah? (Since Buddhism and Jainism didn't invent yoga either, but merely got in on it later - since they were spin-offs on Upanishad learning, attempting to pointlessly universalise it - but now are presenting themselves as having invented yoga while presenting Vedic religion of having been an invader to the Vedic homeland that supposedly copied yoga from them (the "ur-Shramanas") and oppressed their allegedly "native inhabitant" selves.)
b. thenewsminute.com/article/being-osctracized-supporting-modi-says-tamil-writer-facing-legal-trouble-over-book
Quote:Being osctracized for supporting Modi, says Tamil writer facing legal trouble over bookThere is a Very Important reason behind why catholics are trying to suppress/whitewash the true history of the christo-conversion of the once Hindoo Paravas over the centuries. The Paravas were deeply devoted to Amman and their Hindoo heathenism, and christian demons spent centuries trying to convert this into mariolatry instead.
Tamil Nadu Sameera Ahmed| Friday, June 5, 2015 - 19:38
When writer Perumal Murugan was ostracized from his hometown Tiruchengode last year, he had the entire literary community backing him. But now another Tamil author, Joe Dââ¬â¢Cruz who is in legal trouble over one of his books, has questioned the absence of any support for him.
Lashing out at the alleged hypocrisy of the liberal front in India, Tamil writer and Sahitya Akademi award-winner, Joe Dââ¬â¢Cruz who was once publicly criticised for voicing his support for Prime Minister Narendra Modi, questioned what he called the two-faced approach of those who believed in freedom of speech. According to Dââ¬â¢Cruz, he did not get any support from ââ¬Åideologistsââ¬Â after he wrote a Facebook post in April 2014 in support of then Prime Ministerial candidate, Narendra Modi ââ¬â a move that cost him a publishing contract.
Dââ¬â¢Cruz is now facing legal trouble over his 2009 book Korkai after a summons by the Thoothukudi Magistrate over a defamation case alleging the portrayal of the coastal community and Christianity in bad light.
Dââ¬â¢Cruz hails from Uvari, a fishing village in Tirunelveli district, and is acclaimed for his account of the history of fishermen which he chronicled in Korkai. The Hindu reported that Dââ¬â¢Cruz has been issued a summons to appear before the court on June 12over the reported poor depiction of the coastal community, Christianity, priests and nuns in his book.
Joe Dââ¬â¢Cruz said that it was a few anti-social elements who were going against him. ââ¬ÅThe complaint says that I have depicted the community very badly,ââ¬Â D'Cruz told The News Minute.
"The opposition is coming from vested interests,ââ¬Â the author added.
Dââ¬â¢Cruz said that his novels have even evoked a lot of threatening "murder" calls from unknown numbers in the past.
Where is the Freedom of expression now?
In April 2014, when Dââ¬â¢Cruz wrote a Facebook post in support of then Prime Ministerial candidate, Narendra Modi, the move cost him a publishing contract with Delhi-based publisher ââ¬ÅNavayanaââ¬Â who refused to release the English translation of his book, Aazhi Soozh Ulagu (Ocean Ringed World). Though he defended his support for Modi, publishers then refused on the grounds that they would not support someone they thought was a ââ¬Åfascistââ¬Â.
However, what he lost out on was not just a contract, but also faced condemnation from the ââ¬Åso-called ideologistsââ¬Â, he feels.
Criticised the same ââ¬Åideologistsââ¬Â for their beliefs, he said, "They have this stand that 'You agree with my ideology, then only I will support or promote you'."
ââ¬ÅWhere is the freedom of expression now? They will talk of freedom of expression only if you agree with their ideology?ââ¬Â, he said pointing out the hypocrisy.
Explaining that he could not be bracketed in the ââ¬ÅHindutvaââ¬Â label just because of his support for Modi, he said that his support was only for the individual and "there was no mentioning about his party, ideology, his religious sentiment that he belongs to.ââ¬Â However, as a repercussion Dââ¬â¢Cruz, who works as the president of a shipping company, said that he faced a lot of criticism. ââ¬ÅMany people came on to me. They even completely ignored me,ââ¬Â he said, alleging that a number of felicitation events were cancelled by the ââ¬Åso-called ideologistsââ¬Â because of his views.
The two books, a 2004 novel titled Aazhi Soozh Ulagu, for which he was awarded the TN government literary award in 2005, and his second novel Korkai, are both based on the coastal community. However the underlying theme of the stories revolves around the ancestral faith of the Parathavar coastal community which, he says, converted to Christianity in olden times. The portrayal of Christianity and the coastal community in this light has evoked criticism.
When asked why there was criticism against his novels, he defends himself by saying, ââ¬ÅA novel is like a mirror. It shows what the nature of the community is. If you are identifying yourself with one of the characters, whose mistake is it?," he asked. He even alleged hearing instances where priests held copies of his book and promised heaven to those who burnt them.
Identifying himself as a Roman Catholic, D'Cruz said that despite his religion, he still respected female Hindu deities belonging to India.
ââ¬ÅThere are certain elements who are trying to put down my efforts,ââ¬Â concluded Dââ¬â¢Cruz saying that the ââ¬Åelementsââ¬Â were trying to obstruct his attempt to bring awareness to the coastal community about their religious history.
(Image source: Yaadhum Youtube video screengrab)
Ever since De Nobili, all from American missionaries - both male and female - playing at being "historians" of christianism in India, to even S Korean christian "historians of mission in Asia" have tried to recast the conversion of the Paravas into a more proper conversion that christianism can claim as a success since the beginning.
It was an eye-opener just reading the various accounts of the matter. None of the christian accounts I came across are consistent. There was obvious concealment in them - e.g. an attempt to whitewash the remnants of paganism of earlier eras as 'actually' being "successful" early attempts at inculturation even - which was outed when Indian christo catholic hysterians blabbed the facts of this particular aspect of Parava history, and thereby accidentally set this record straight: the Paravas had actually reverted to paganism in the timeframe in question. But then the same 'Indian' catholic hysterians then went about declaring that they were properly converted thereafter, and worked in their own history rewriting at this stage/concealed other facts like the Jesuits vs Portuguese, inciting severe civil strife among converted Paravas to decide which Euro-christists masters should claim their wealth-producing community. <- This was a bit alien christo authors on converted Paravas' history admitted, but that Indian catholics totally skipped past and that the S Korean christist avoided too IIRC.
Joe D'Cruz - if he 'still respects female Hindu deities belonging to India' as it says above - should just Return Home already, can stop wasting his own time in christianism. He appears to be of the Parava fishing community, so why is he resisting his ancestral Divine Mother, who was a God so central to the Paravas? The Paravas used to be profoundly loyal to their Divine Parents, and even after the first faux-conversion for opportunistic reasons, for a long time they simply continued Hindu religion under a pretense of christianism to the christian colonials and jesuits who came to check up on them, because they never actually meant to convert, they only meant to get rid of the islamaniacs terrorising their fisheries by requesting the Portuguese to help, but which help - predictably - was on condition of their conversion. (No different from the christian carrion fowl turning every disaster into an opportunity for a harvest by requiring conversion in return for relief aid.)
"Hindu nationalists" should IMO really read up various sources on the history of the conversion of the Paravas. Even the desperately disparate accounts by various christian missionaries on the subject is quite educational on how christianism lies, then lies and lies again to legitimise itself and its history in the subcontinent.
Some of the comments on the newsminute article:
Quote:Sam 2 days ago
This is akin to the case of Sanal Edamaruku, the rationalist living in self-exile in Finland. When he debunked Hindu superstitions it was OK and he was feted by the media and lived without any fear for his safety in India, even though his background was Christian. But once he made the mistake of targeting Christian superstition in India all bets were off and he had to flee the country with his tail beneath his legs to silence from the media and the seculars. Another example of secular hypocrisy in action, right out of Animal Farm: four legs (Hindus) good, two legs (Abrahamics) better.
Sam 2 days ago
What exactly does "depicted the community very badly" mean? Give specifics. For example, did he concoct a fictitious story about loose women from that community having sex with strangers under religious sanction, like Perumal Murugan did? Or were they offended just because he wrote how they had been converted and possessed an ancestral faith? Was he writing as a member of the community being portrayed, or, like Murugan, writing offensively about a community from which he had converted and arguably had a bias against? Big difference! Seculars are even greater hypocrites than they appear to be on the surface.
hax 2 days ago
simple fact here the law suit is between him and Christian church authority and no liberal or communist will dare to come rescue you actually am surprised news sites are covering this issue
ha > hax a day ago
even the headline is misleading typical click-bait.to side track the main issue
issue here is questioning where is support for author from so called liberals self claimed rationalists. since its a law suit between author and church authority its know thing no liberal or communist will help him if we look clearly its has less of politics more of liberal hypocrisy
The lawsuit has been filed very recently by one V. Alangara Bharathavar, general secretary of the Meenavar Viduthalai Iyakkam, who claims
ââ¬ÅHe has written as if promiscuity is prevalent among fisherwomen. His portrayal of Catholic priests and nuns has offended the faith. It caused me and others who have read the novel pain and anguish."
This writer has also previously lost a book contract in April 2014 for his support for Modi. people do not get confuse the two issues. headline of article is misleading to sidetrack main issue
Bajju a day ago
Sorry Mr.Dââ¬â¢Cruz,
There will be no candle light marches, no ââ¬Âª#ââ¬Å½Istandwithââ¬Â¬ hashtags, no howling and hollering on primetime tv, no op-eds in newspapers, no Facebook-only righteous activism
If you really believed that the so called debate was all about freedom of expression, sorry to rain on your parade.
In this masquerade,your misfortune is that you are on the wrong side of the road...
3. mediacrooks.com/2015/06/muslim-periyar-farce.html
Quote:VivekJune 05, 2015 7:52 AM
The idea of India was One nation, one people under one law. But muslims rejected that idea. Chacha 420 gave Muslims their own shariah laws and made them a privileged 'minority' soon after independence. Other communities have also rejected the idea of India, recently Jains rejected the idea by demanding and securing privileged 'minority' status, thanks to their financial clout.