Forgot to put this up last time.
Gah the looniness is relentless.
swarajyamag.com/culture/dear-andrew-nicholson/
Admittedly Savarkar is no heathen. But at least he wasn't a cowardly shove over.
And although Hindutva/Hindu nationalism (lower case n) is a replacement religion, the True Nationalism is Hindoo heathen onlee. It is the very form of heathenism, and embodied in all heathens for their own lands. E.g. emperor Julian. [<- There's always an opportunity to slip him in, 'cause he's always so applicable. To all my causes and arguments.]
Anyway, this Sayan Sen - if he be genuine - is craven.
And Gandhi's Hinduism is the true Hinduism? How? And since when? Didn't Gandhi tell Hindoo women to go back to get raped by their islamic "brothers"? That is what Sayan Sen will have Hindoos do tomorrow. Today however, Hindoos are asked to remain silent, keep rolling over/levitate I mean 'meditate'.
But:
- Shri Rama's Hinduism (Vedic religio) is Da True (onlee) Hinduism.
- Shri Krishna' + Pandavas' Hinduism aka Vedic religio is Da True Hinduism.
a. When his wife was kidnapped and tormented, Rama didn't become a recluse and meditate. He - and his entire divine monkey army - destroyed the adharmic villain who stole Rama's wife and terrorised her.
Of course, Rama knew how to meditate and felt deep bhakti being a True Hindoo (being in fact the God Vishnu setting the example for Hindoos for all time to come): e.g. Rama meditated on Aditya to bless his real battle thereafter with Ravana. And Surya Bhagavan did bless him with assured victory. Aditya Hrudayam is after all very much a prayer for victory in battle. Literal battle. Also other stuff, but definitely also literal war.
Rama meditated after the battle too, after Ravana was felled and Lanka restored to dharma: can thus see Rama and Lakshmana and Sita moorties in beautiful seated yoga pose (in TN Vaishnava Hindoo kovil). But then, when the necessary battles are over, there will always be more time for meditation. There's a time for dhyana yoga and a time for karma yoga - as Sri Krishna himself teaches - and it's wrong to confuse the application of the two.
b. When their wife was tormented and they were unjustly robbed of their rightful inheritance and turned out of their own homes, the Pandavas didn't give up "politics" and retreat into "meditation". They cleaned the floor with the Kauravas, well, after trying to reason with them first. (And the Kauravas were more sane and dharmic than the subversive, psyops-and-dawaganda-generating alien christowest, or the genocidal christoislamic infestation in India.)
Of course the Pandavas still did pooja/tapas - e.g. to Pashupati-Shiva - to acquire weapons like the Paashupataastra to destroy the Kauravas.
And after they had won the war and won back their kingdom, the Pandavas had more time for meditating and poojas. And when kShatriya rulers retired, leaving their kingdoms in the hands/protection of their grown and able progeny, to carry on just governance (as opposed to everyone abdicating), the retired kShatriya rulers would become hermits and pursue yoga etc.
Nor did Krishna tell Arjuna that dropping the Gandiva was a good thing and that Arjuna should start meditating at this hour. Rather, Krishna told Arjuna to go and fight the war, conquer his enemies (and no, it was not merely 'philosophically' meant, though it has philosophical meanings also).
The point is, the Heathen exemplaries of the Hindoos - Hindoo Gods though these were - never forsook their charge.
And all Hindoos today are charged to defend the Dharma. By whatever means are necessary to secure our victory and our peace to be at last left alone to be, to continue to be heathens.
It may take the form of necessary rebuttals and exposes, or hard knocks against the would-be genocidal maniacs. All as called for and as deserved.
Sayan Sen's delusional nonsense is *exactly* what happens when the fraud that is neo-Vedanta (actually pseudo-Vedanta) is allowed to be propagated/allowed to spread the poison.
Pseudo-Vedanta, i.e. the new-agey peddling of "Vedanta Lite" to all Hindoos, as the aim for all Hindoos - who are thereupon expected to abandon their actual paths to suddenly all aim to become sannyasins* - has replaced the correct, divinely-intended propagation of the Ramayanam and Mahabharatam among Hindoos, which encapsulates the dharma meant for all HindOOs (not just sannyasins).
* Actually, new-age-ily peddling pseudo-Sannyasa to all is exactly what Jainism and Buddhism did. They thus stole away many of Hindoos' kShatriyas and turned them into confused/subverted sheep; made them forsake their actual path (of upholding Vaidika Dharma as kshatriyas, as opposed to upholding replacement theologies as wannabe-sannyasis).
And it was all downhill from there. And Buddhism felt the repercussions of its pseudo-Vedanta peddling with islam.
Moral: don't peddle pseudo-Vedanta/the Sannyasa state to all and sundry. Because all and sundry will suffer. Terribly.
It must of course be said that actual sannyasins (=a type of Vedic Hindoos) would never advocate what Sayan Sen has advocated: a meek surrender to villainy let alone by the uptake of the 'path of renunciation'/sannyasa by all. Rather, actual Sannyasins know well the path of dharma of other Hindoos, and help them pursue it. They also know when it is necessary and what is necessary to protect and uphold Dharma=Hindoo heathenism=Hindoo-dom, and would never advise meditation when rebuttal or retaliation or defence or offence is called for. Instead, they would champion the necessary actions at the necessary times, where Hindoo society will still listen.
In contrast to some Indic religions, Hindoo heathenism is not exclusively or largely other-worldly, but is quite this-wordly too. It is quite realistic. Not merely idealistic.
Sayan Sen is not following any Hinduism, he is following Gandhiism (another replacement religio) - which just gets people slaughtered like sheep. Sayan Sen is free to do that for himself - since that appears to be his actual aim in life, it certainly would be its end if left to his devices - but he has no right to subvert other Hindoos, who know Dharma=Vedam as revealed from the Ramayana=Vedam and the Mahabharatam=Vedam.
^ That's all assuming Sayan Sen is not some poseur.
Honestly. Can't work out whether Sayan Sen is a false flag/christoislamicommunist infiltrator and pretender - they're certainly doing a bit more homework than usual, using terminology to propagate false arguments - or whether he is merely a mindnumbing neo-Vedanta/pseudo-Vedanta peddler. <- Pseudanta! "But that has no meaning." Exactly. It's perfect.
General complaint -
Noticed this on most nationalist sites that allow opinions/comments: that none of them can keep the leftist and christoislamic trolls out, as nationalist sites tend to religiously and uniquely believe in the freedom of speech of their enemies (more like 'freedom' to divert and waste Hindoos' precious time and effort in responding with wasteful (though valid) rebuttals of enforced-necessity, and which 'freedom' is merely used to destroy the value of comments, the comment section discussions and the articles' purpose itself).
Why do "nationalist" sites do this to themselves? Why? Are they sticklers for punishment too? But then why do such sites do this to their Hindu
readers/participants? Who are forced to expend effort in responding, forced - not so much by the subversive spam-artists, but by the nationalist sites themselves in their very act of allowing enemies the freedom to screech/propagate dawaganda and subversions at will on nationalis sites.
Would-be nationalist sites should just gag nonsense.
The numerous anti-Indian nexus sites (e.g. christomedia sites) religiously prevent factual and valuable comments by Hindus rebutting christoislamicommunist lies, dawangada and subversions.* So freedom of speech already doesn't exist - certainly not for Hindus - but why is christoislamicommunists' freedom to lie allowed on nationalist sites?
* Isn't this gagging of Hindoos and constant eclipsing of facts the very reason that the nationalist sites were set up as independent sources of useful factual information and a more authentic presentation of the Hindu and/or nationalist viewpoint? A go-to for Hindus tired of dawaganda and in need of actual news, and constructive ideas for restoration of Order?
Yet such nationalist sites - with their fervent belief in the freedom of enemies to screech - are turning themselves into further avenues for christoislamicommunists to poison Hindus. Hindu readers can't be expected to waste all their time responding to obviously-debile dawandist islamics/lefties like the fraud calling itself "Vindhya Sing" and dravoodianists like the crypto "Munusamy Ganapathy" at swarajyamag, or the regressive vituperative moron Dr (P)MS at indiafacts. Yet Hindu readers can't leave their lies without response: as this might imply Hindoos could not respond. Far better to weed out idiot comments, or remove known trolls and what trustworthies vote as spam.
Are nationalists not allowed to be free of their enemies and of having to contend with their enemies' debile/debilitating "arguments" even on nationalist sites, so they can focus on more constructive discussions in the opinion sections?
Bah. Secularism/"freedom to screech" principle continues to sink Hindu nationalist efforts to properly rise again.
Another whinge-binge.
Gah the looniness is relentless.
swarajyamag.com/culture/dear-andrew-nicholson/
Quote:Sayan Sen ââ¬Â¢ 2 days ago
Dear Hindutva friends,
You are doing the greatest disservice possible to our millenia old Dharma by politicising and fighting parochial battles in the name of defending Hinduism. A true Hindu knows the limitations of his material/conditioned/worldly knowledge. A true Hindu never chooses politics over meditation, silent contemplation and loving devotion. I am confident that the Hindu masses (inspite of Hindutva propaganda and Rajiv Malhotra <smiley removed>) will anyday choose my traditional Hinduism (of Gandhi) over modern pseudo-Hinduism (i.e. Hindutva of Savarkar).
Please stop reading Rajiv Malhotra et al.
How many have you read the Bagavad Gita, Upanishads, the Vedas and you have suddenly become the defenders of our faith by simply reading Rajiv Malhotra and Koenraad Elst (a better seeker)?
Wake up. Seek your true Self.
Shun Hindutva and embrace Hinduism.
"Give up all religions and surrender unto Me" on this pious Rath Yatra.
VeVePe > Sayan Sen ââ¬Â¢ 2 days ago
I would suggest that you try to absorb the meaning of the Bhagavad-Gita. Our work in the world is not separate from our Sadhana.
Anandh360 > Sayan Sen ââ¬Â¢ 2 days ago
Sayan Sen is not who he claims to be. He does not understand difference between hindutva and Hinduism. His comments are not only degrading but also misleading. He is acting like the 'good cop' . And that's exactly why people like him have to be shunned.
Admittedly Savarkar is no heathen. But at least he wasn't a cowardly shove over.
And although Hindutva/Hindu nationalism (lower case n) is a replacement religion, the True Nationalism is Hindoo heathen onlee. It is the very form of heathenism, and embodied in all heathens for their own lands. E.g. emperor Julian. [<- There's always an opportunity to slip him in, 'cause he's always so applicable. To all my causes and arguments.]
Anyway, this Sayan Sen - if he be genuine - is craven.
And Gandhi's Hinduism is the true Hinduism? How? And since when? Didn't Gandhi tell Hindoo women to go back to get raped by their islamic "brothers"? That is what Sayan Sen will have Hindoos do tomorrow. Today however, Hindoos are asked to remain silent, keep rolling over/levitate I mean 'meditate'.
But:
- Shri Rama's Hinduism (Vedic religio) is Da True (onlee) Hinduism.
- Shri Krishna' + Pandavas' Hinduism aka Vedic religio is Da True Hinduism.
a. When his wife was kidnapped and tormented, Rama didn't become a recluse and meditate. He - and his entire divine monkey army - destroyed the adharmic villain who stole Rama's wife and terrorised her.
Of course, Rama knew how to meditate and felt deep bhakti being a True Hindoo (being in fact the God Vishnu setting the example for Hindoos for all time to come): e.g. Rama meditated on Aditya to bless his real battle thereafter with Ravana. And Surya Bhagavan did bless him with assured victory. Aditya Hrudayam is after all very much a prayer for victory in battle. Literal battle. Also other stuff, but definitely also literal war.
Rama meditated after the battle too, after Ravana was felled and Lanka restored to dharma: can thus see Rama and Lakshmana and Sita moorties in beautiful seated yoga pose (in TN Vaishnava Hindoo kovil). But then, when the necessary battles are over, there will always be more time for meditation. There's a time for dhyana yoga and a time for karma yoga - as Sri Krishna himself teaches - and it's wrong to confuse the application of the two.
b. When their wife was tormented and they were unjustly robbed of their rightful inheritance and turned out of their own homes, the Pandavas didn't give up "politics" and retreat into "meditation". They cleaned the floor with the Kauravas, well, after trying to reason with them first. (And the Kauravas were more sane and dharmic than the subversive, psyops-and-dawaganda-generating alien christowest, or the genocidal christoislamic infestation in India.)
Of course the Pandavas still did pooja/tapas - e.g. to Pashupati-Shiva - to acquire weapons like the Paashupataastra to destroy the Kauravas.
And after they had won the war and won back their kingdom, the Pandavas had more time for meditating and poojas. And when kShatriya rulers retired, leaving their kingdoms in the hands/protection of their grown and able progeny, to carry on just governance (as opposed to everyone abdicating), the retired kShatriya rulers would become hermits and pursue yoga etc.
Nor did Krishna tell Arjuna that dropping the Gandiva was a good thing and that Arjuna should start meditating at this hour. Rather, Krishna told Arjuna to go and fight the war, conquer his enemies (and no, it was not merely 'philosophically' meant, though it has philosophical meanings also).
The point is, the Heathen exemplaries of the Hindoos - Hindoo Gods though these were - never forsook their charge.
And all Hindoos today are charged to defend the Dharma. By whatever means are necessary to secure our victory and our peace to be at last left alone to be, to continue to be heathens.
It may take the form of necessary rebuttals and exposes, or hard knocks against the would-be genocidal maniacs. All as called for and as deserved.
Sayan Sen's delusional nonsense is *exactly* what happens when the fraud that is neo-Vedanta (actually pseudo-Vedanta) is allowed to be propagated/allowed to spread the poison.
Pseudo-Vedanta, i.e. the new-agey peddling of "Vedanta Lite" to all Hindoos, as the aim for all Hindoos - who are thereupon expected to abandon their actual paths to suddenly all aim to become sannyasins* - has replaced the correct, divinely-intended propagation of the Ramayanam and Mahabharatam among Hindoos, which encapsulates the dharma meant for all HindOOs (not just sannyasins).
* Actually, new-age-ily peddling pseudo-Sannyasa to all is exactly what Jainism and Buddhism did. They thus stole away many of Hindoos' kShatriyas and turned them into confused/subverted sheep; made them forsake their actual path (of upholding Vaidika Dharma as kshatriyas, as opposed to upholding replacement theologies as wannabe-sannyasis).
And it was all downhill from there. And Buddhism felt the repercussions of its pseudo-Vedanta peddling with islam.
Moral: don't peddle pseudo-Vedanta/the Sannyasa state to all and sundry. Because all and sundry will suffer. Terribly.
It must of course be said that actual sannyasins (=a type of Vedic Hindoos) would never advocate what Sayan Sen has advocated: a meek surrender to villainy let alone by the uptake of the 'path of renunciation'/sannyasa by all. Rather, actual Sannyasins know well the path of dharma of other Hindoos, and help them pursue it. They also know when it is necessary and what is necessary to protect and uphold Dharma=Hindoo heathenism=Hindoo-dom, and would never advise meditation when rebuttal or retaliation or defence or offence is called for. Instead, they would champion the necessary actions at the necessary times, where Hindoo society will still listen.
In contrast to some Indic religions, Hindoo heathenism is not exclusively or largely other-worldly, but is quite this-wordly too. It is quite realistic. Not merely idealistic.
Sayan Sen is not following any Hinduism, he is following Gandhiism (another replacement religio) - which just gets people slaughtered like sheep. Sayan Sen is free to do that for himself - since that appears to be his actual aim in life, it certainly would be its end if left to his devices - but he has no right to subvert other Hindoos, who know Dharma=Vedam as revealed from the Ramayana=Vedam and the Mahabharatam=Vedam.
^ That's all assuming Sayan Sen is not some poseur.
Honestly. Can't work out whether Sayan Sen is a false flag/christoislamicommunist infiltrator and pretender - they're certainly doing a bit more homework than usual, using terminology to propagate false arguments - or whether he is merely a mindnumbing neo-Vedanta/pseudo-Vedanta peddler. <- Pseudanta! "But that has no meaning." Exactly. It's perfect.
General complaint -
Noticed this on most nationalist sites that allow opinions/comments: that none of them can keep the leftist and christoislamic trolls out, as nationalist sites tend to religiously and uniquely believe in the freedom of speech of their enemies (more like 'freedom' to divert and waste Hindoos' precious time and effort in responding with wasteful (though valid) rebuttals of enforced-necessity, and which 'freedom' is merely used to destroy the value of comments, the comment section discussions and the articles' purpose itself).
Why do "nationalist" sites do this to themselves? Why? Are they sticklers for punishment too? But then why do such sites do this to their Hindu
readers/participants? Who are forced to expend effort in responding, forced - not so much by the subversive spam-artists, but by the nationalist sites themselves in their very act of allowing enemies the freedom to screech/propagate dawaganda and subversions at will on nationalis sites.
Would-be nationalist sites should just gag nonsense.
The numerous anti-Indian nexus sites (e.g. christomedia sites) religiously prevent factual and valuable comments by Hindus rebutting christoislamicommunist lies, dawangada and subversions.* So freedom of speech already doesn't exist - certainly not for Hindus - but why is christoislamicommunists' freedom to lie allowed on nationalist sites?
* Isn't this gagging of Hindoos and constant eclipsing of facts the very reason that the nationalist sites were set up as independent sources of useful factual information and a more authentic presentation of the Hindu and/or nationalist viewpoint? A go-to for Hindus tired of dawaganda and in need of actual news, and constructive ideas for restoration of Order?
Yet such nationalist sites - with their fervent belief in the freedom of enemies to screech - are turning themselves into further avenues for christoislamicommunists to poison Hindus. Hindu readers can't be expected to waste all their time responding to obviously-debile dawandist islamics/lefties like the fraud calling itself "Vindhya Sing" and dravoodianists like the crypto "Munusamy Ganapathy" at swarajyamag, or the regressive vituperative moron Dr (P)MS at indiafacts. Yet Hindu readers can't leave their lies without response: as this might imply Hindoos could not respond. Far better to weed out idiot comments, or remove known trolls and what trustworthies vote as spam.
Are nationalists not allowed to be free of their enemies and of having to contend with their enemies' debile/debilitating "arguments" even on nationalist sites, so they can focus on more constructive discussions in the opinion sections?
Bah. Secularism/"freedom to screech" principle continues to sink Hindu nationalist efforts to properly rise again.
Another whinge-binge.