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More epic fails of eurocentrism/white supremacism.





1. Another typical looney white supremacist claimed at

patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-peruvian-chachapoyas-or-white.html

AnonymousNovember 27, 2014 at 8:49 PM



Of course White Indians were in the Americas! Blondes is a White European trait. White blonde indians were even seen by Lewis and Clark. Read about Solutreans who are the real native Americans. Look up Kennewick man. It may be hard for politically correct anti-Whites to swallow just like White slavery in America that is completely ignored! Just like Blonde Whites in China 1000 years before east Asians.

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AWNovember 29, 2014 at 6:51 PM



I have not found any reference to white Indians in Lewis and Clark's papers, perhaps you can provide it.

This reference talks about the Mandan people (

lewisandclarkjournals.unl.edu/read/?_xmlsrc=lc.ronda.01.04.xml&_xslsrc=LC)

found in 1738, when Pierre Gaultier de Varennes de La Vérendrye, who actually was looking for. But did not find any white Indians.

Fair white skinned people in China can be explained by the Euroasiatic dispersal of Europeans.

Kennewick, unfortunately will remain a mystery due to short-sighted bigoted Nativeamerican fear of the truth that science can provide regarding their origin and the peopling of America.

Thanks for posting.

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AnonymousNovember 15, 2015 at 5:39 PM



In regards to your comment about Kenniwick man, how does ones reverence and respect for ones own ancestors make one bigoted and short sighted? Just because they would prefer for scientists to leave them and theirs alone, that means they're bigoted? How is white western science's need to know more

important, than showing indigenous people, they and their ancestors are not meant to be museum specimens for the curiosity of white people? You do know that when you posted your comment in 2014 Kenniwick Man had been studied extensively with countless, Books, DNA, and casts and measurements of his bones? For one who seems to be interested in natives and their lifestyles why do you have to be so spiteful when you feel that certain tribes refuse white science? By the way, I really like your blog, especially the ones about the Chumash indians, Tomols, and haplogroup D4h3a because I am Chumash

And D4h3a.

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Never mind, Hindoo heathens understand the reverence native American heathens have for the sanctity of their ancestral dead.



Christian dead may not be exhumed of course: that would be disrespect, etc. Only christians=demons have rights. Meanwhile christians will trample all over others' rights. But they're not the only ones:



The bloghost declares as follows in anti-heathen atheist supremacism (but not white supremacism): euro-settlers in AmriKKKa have every right to other people's sacred stuff of course. Sort of like how alien demons (Dutch uni?) drilled holes in a Chola bronze Shiva moorti that they'd stolen, in order to "find out how it was made", as seen in news from HaindavaKeralam. Aliens always feel they have a right to heathens' stuff. Excuses like "scientific curiosity".



But the bloghost accidentally provides Very Useful information indeed.

AWNovember 15, 2015 at 6:35 PM



Hello Anonymous,

Lets set the record clear.

0. "Ones own ancestors" is a rather sweeping claim. This man may not even be (actually he is not) the ancestor of current native groups living in the area.

1, The first official paper on the genetics of Kennewick Man was Rasmussen et al. paper of June 18 2015. nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7561/full/nature14625.html

All the rest prior to that was non-informative, bungled tests and so forth.

2. This man though ancestral to SOME Native Americans is not necessarily -and this is what the paper says- a direct ancestor of the groups now linving in the area. Which is quite logical.

(No, the paper is Much Much better than that, see below.)

3. Who said anything about museum specimens for the curiosity of white people. That is a bigoted concept. The remains of a human being can be studied for the advancement of human (mankind) knowledge. Aboriginals in Australia have a similar viewpoint to yours. What is this about reverence? Respect yes, but reverence?

Human remains of people murdered, abducted or simply NN remains found by chance are constantly studied to identify them by forensic means, And this does not cause disrespect or irreverence.

It is science. Science is neutral. Science is color blind. Something Relgion or spritual viewpoints cannot say.

And when I wrote bigoted I meant that: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group).

This seems to be a "white" vs. "Native American" issue, and hence a bigoted matter. Prejudice, ideas which stand in the way of enlightenment, knowledge and progress for all mankind.

I couldn't care less when someone takes samples of bones and studies the DNA of a putative ancestor of mine i.e. Motala in Sweden or Loschbour Luxembourg or Stuttgart in Germany. They are dead, and long gone and their bones can shed some light on the history of mankind. Surely they would not object. I wouldn't if someone found my bones 5000 years or 8000 years from now. Only bones. People are more than bones.

Native American burial sites were always off-limits. They respected this even in war. Then again, alien demons and other non-heathens would never understand.

Guess that's how alien demon scientists must have argued when they infected African Americans with STDs to "investigate" cures.





2. Anyway, the published paper link on the Kennewick man (note, the famous Allentoft is involved again):



nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7561/full/nature14625.html

The ancestry and affiliations of Kennewick Man



Morten Rasmussen, Martin Sikora, Anders Albrechtsen, Thorfinn Sand Korneliussen, J. Víctor Moreno-Mayar, G. David Poznik, Christoph P. E. Zollikofer, Marcia S. Ponce de León, Morten E. Allentoft, Ida Moltke, Hákon Jónsson, Cristina Valdiosera, Ripan S. Malhi, Ludovic Orlando, Carlos D. Bustamante, Thomas W. Stafford Jr, David J. Meltzer, Rasmus Nielsen & Eske Willerslev



Nature

523,

455–458

(23 July 2015)

doi:10.1038/nature14625



...



The mitochondrial genome was sequenced to ~71× coverage and is placed at the root of haplogroup X2a (Extended Data Fig. 1 and Supplementary Information 2), and the Y-chromosome haplogroup is Q-M3 (Extended Data Fig. 2 and Supplementary Information 5); both uniparental lineages are found almost exclusively among contemporary Native Americans15, 16.

We used the X chromosome to conservatively estimate contamination to be 2.5%, which is within the normal range obtained observed in genomic data from ancient human remains17, and we further show this contamination to be of European origin (Supplementary Information 4).

European tampering with the so-called "Kennewick man"* as being some kind of novelty no doubt introduced the contamination. *What an alien name that must be to native American heathens.



So Heathens win AGAIN.

Native American Heathens/heathenism: 2

Alien demons (white supremacist eurocentrism/christianism/moronism): 0.



But will Alien demons start exercising self-restraint to their debile self-aggrandising tendencies? No. I'm sure they won't.





Note: I agree with the native American heathen "Anonymous" who didn't want his ancestors' remains trifled with.

But since foreigners had anyway dug up and prodded and poked the "Kennewick man" and finally extracted DNA from his remains anyway,

I'm glad the heathens at least stand vindicated. Something good came from this misery inflicted on the native Americans. Their ancestor blessed them and let the truth come out: the appropriating eurocentrist demons have yet again lost.



But all of this tampering with native heathens' ancestral remains is only because eurocentrists made everything controversial in the first place and tried to encroach on every heathen thing for white supremacism. They're such a curse.

I'm sure tomorrow alien demons will still be going around pretending the 'Kennewick Man' was a "white" person from Eurolands and convincing themselves that all the genetics studies are an "anti-white conspiracy".





3. Here's a 2008 set of slides marked class room format - apparently some latent white supremacists wanted to propagate the following nonsense among kids:

www.slideshare.net/JudyMJohnson/3-many-peoples-kennewick



One of the images of a 'reconstruction' of the Kennewick Man is captioned with "Conclusion - Kennewick Man appears to be Caucasian"

image.slidesharecdn.com/3kennewick-091108104753-phpapp01/95/3-many-peoples-kennewick-16-728.jpg?cb=1257678256



Moral: When will alien demons be held accountable for their systematic lying against native heathens and their systematic appropriation (including in education) of native heathens' ancestory and accomplishments? Someone has to do a slideshow on the alien demon "culture" of appropriation and self-aggrandising, summing up that this - more than anything else apparently - is the defining feature of the alien demon "civilisation".



Sort of like steppist university level lecturers teaching that

- yamna drank mare's milk (NO, the Botai culture drank mare's milk - of whom it is not known they were IE at all and archaeologists insist Botai are not IE). Have yet to come across any news that Yamnaya drank mare's milk

- and that Yamna had the lactase persistence allele. NO, the Mathieson et al 2015 data set of Yamna aDNA has none with the allele.

3 Many Peoples- Kennewick



1. KENNEWICK MAN CLASS ROOM FORMAT AAPS OCTOBER 2008

3. Kennewick Man, The Power of First Impressions By Rick Osmon, Moderator, blogtalkradio.comloopa.loopa.cafe Scholar of many topics about Ancient America

4. On July 28, 1996 two young men found a human skull in the Columbia River at Kennewick, WA. James Chatters, a forensic anthropologist, was invited to conduct skeletal forensics. He recovered scattered bones and began to make observations

5. WASHINGTON KENNEWICK YAKIMA

6. Possible European traits: how the nose projected how the face projected, narrow face, delicate lower jaw, long, narrow cranium, absence of flaring cheekbones.

7. KENNEWICK MAN HAD PROJECTILE POINT LEAF SHAPED IN BUTTOCK COMMON BUT OLD CALCIFIED INTO BONE MAN NOT A RECENT SETTLER

8. PROJECTILE POINT SERRATED CASCADE PROJECTILE TYPICAL 8500 BP TO 4500 BP BUT SIMILAR STYLES IN USE IN WESTERN NORTH AMERICA INTO NINETEENTH CENTURY

9. COMMUNICATIONS FORENSICS EXPERT (CHATTERS) CORONER ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AMERICAN INDIANS SKELETON WAS NOT LIKE AMERICAN INDIAN or Was a TRAPPER EXPLORER RADIO CARBON and DNA tests ordered

10. RADIO CARBON RESULTS 8410 +/- 60 BP SO ….. MUST BE AMERICAN INDIAN SUBJECT TO NATIVE AMERICAN GRAVES PROTECTION ACT NAGPRA

11. ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS “ PULLED OUT ALL STOPS” TO GIVE BONES TO AMERICAN INDIANS UNDER NAGPRA SO BONES COULD BE SWIFTLY REBURIED.

12. Scott Malcomson New York Times Why Gov. action important Interviewed parties (No Government officials.) ISSUES: Race Related laws

13. DNA Repeated test results not accepted. Always caucasoid ? Gov. blamed contamination Contamination is problem.



(2008 whining. But yes, it was Euro-contamination of native American DNA. Allentoft & co. analysis 2015 analysis have concluded this clearly. Allentoft in 2015 also worked on collecting and analysing about 101 samples of "Eurasian" aDNA. So if he and his collaborators say Euro DNA had contaminated Native American Kennewick Man remains, it is because they know what they're saying. So the US govt for very correct in blaming contamination as the cause for pre-2008 genetics tests coming up with the wrong - i.e. "Caucasasian" - results. Eurocentrists should stop contaminating native American remains with euro DNA. One almost wonders if they do it on purpose...

Eurocentrists/white supremacists however like to imagine anti-white conspiracy everywhere. In reality they're the ones conspiring against native heathens. When will eurocentrists stop trying to steal other peoples' stuff?)



14. Why all the hubbub. Bub? If KM is not American Indian, then social, cultural, and legal factors are affected. KM ethincity can upset recognition of tribal rights. Also questions national Legal status.

15. Robson Bonnichsen: " that the earliest inhabitants of this continent may have no modern descendants. . . . Multiple colonizing groups appear to be represented and many of the oldest studied skeletons have strong Caucasian skeletal features."

16. CONCLUSION KENNEWICK MAN APPEARS TO BE CAUCASIAN

(No, the conclusion is

1. that alien demons refuse to stop committing cultural genocide against native Americans. Even after the year 2000.

2. Kennewick man is exclusively native American and not Caucasian/European at all. "Sorry" eurocentrists. What's that line? "Get used to disappointment".)

Summary: Point 2 is the important one in this post: the so-called "Kennewick Man" is totally native American, as per geneticists Allentoft & co themselves - who by-passed the Euro contamination of the aDNA to come to the right conclusions.



This and the previous post are somewhat related: about nativeness of ancient native N and S Americans (which eurocentrists had tried to contest as "ancient Euros"). The previous post is about the "white" Chachapoyans of S America/Peruvian mummies.