Turns out the would-be proto-ghazis (other people's chosen ancestors) were druggies too. Dope.
And of course, David Anthony is back spinning fabulous hypothetical tales: just because ancient Hindus (and presumably ancient Iranians) used Soma, he has to invent the existence of a "proto-Soma" culture among his choice for the supposed "PIE" speaking population. Since he can't just make a substance up that doesn't exist (since there's no text to corroborate the mcguffin), he equates cannabis to that proto-soma.
Just like he was peddling his horse-eating fetish - "because his Yamnaya ancestors did it" - he will next be peddling his weed smoking habits to all and sundry too.
I really hope all IEists fall for it and indulge in it. I had heard that it was great for antagonising reproduction (still the case as at 2013), and I'd be the last to complain if all IEists went totally extinct.
newscientist.com/article/2096440-founders-of-western-civilisation-were-prehistoric-dope-dealers
Delusional IEist falsehood alert:
Speaking of substances that stupid people indulge in (of course I approve, as the practice weeds out such stupidity itself):
www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/22/alcohol-direct-cause-seven-forms-of-cancer-study
www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer
IIRC, the news I came across specifically said it had been shown to cause *at least* 7 types of cancers. The rest still to be investigated.
Can't wait to hear how the Yamna invented this too. Hope Anthony comes up with some grand (i.e. idiotic) story that he tries to sell about this too. Good for all senile ... I mean IEists. They should then all be encouraged to binge too. Will work wonders in conjuction with smoking pot to channel their proto-ghazi (stoner) ancestors from the steppes, or so I understand.
ADDED:
Oh I see what they did there. They just pushed "IE" contacts with China to 3000 BCE / 5kya (previously they were trying this with the Tarim Basin, but that didn't go back before 2500 BCE and there is still no proven contact of Tarim with steppists anyway*). IEism will next start pillaging/claiming E Asian things other than cannabis usage at that 3000 BCE period.
* But there IS proven contact between Indians and possibly Iranians with the Tarim Basin: even white supremacist IEist steppist Victor Mair had to admit Tarim contacts with "Indo-Aryans". He only admitted it from 500 BCE onwards. Meanwhile Li & colleagues in much a later paper said Indians (mtDNA M5 which is NOT from the steppes but Indian specific) and Iranians (though mtDNA U7 is equally Indian) - whom the authors said had entered Tarim from BMAC - were present from the earliest strata in a key Tarim site (2000 BCE IIRC).
And of course, David Anthony is back spinning fabulous hypothetical tales: just because ancient Hindus (and presumably ancient Iranians) used Soma, he has to invent the existence of a "proto-Soma" culture among his choice for the supposed "PIE" speaking population. Since he can't just make a substance up that doesn't exist (since there's no text to corroborate the mcguffin), he equates cannabis to that proto-soma.
Just like he was peddling his horse-eating fetish - "because his Yamnaya ancestors did it" - he will next be peddling his weed smoking habits to all and sundry too.
I really hope all IEists fall for it and indulge in it. I had heard that it was great for antagonising reproduction (still the case as at 2013), and I'd be the last to complain if all IEists went totally extinct.
newscientist.com/article/2096440-founders-of-western-civilisation-were-prehistoric-dope-dealers
Quote:Daily news
7 July 2016
Founders of Western civilisation were prehistoric dope dealers
...
Central Eurasiaââ¬â¢s Yamnaya people ââ¬â thought to be one of the three key tribes that founded European civilisation ÃÂââ¬â dispersed eastwards at this time and are thought to have spread cannabis, and possibly its psychoactive use, throughout Eurasia.
...
However, there are reasons to believe that its mind-bending properties were a factor. Some researchers have suggested that burned cannabis seeds found at archaeological sites hint that the Yamnaya carried the idea of smoking cannabis with them as they spread across Eurasia.
David Anthony at Hartwick College in Oneonta, New York, who studies the Yamnaya, says the population may have used cannabis for its psychoactive properties on certain special occasions. ââ¬ÅThe expansion of cannabis use as a drug does seem to be linked to movements out of the steppe,ââ¬Â he says. ââ¬ÅCannabis might have been reserved for special feasts or rituals.ââ¬Â
(Isn't it past time that David Anthony were officially crowned the absolute king of Mere Speculation? I haven't heard him resist a single lie to evolve his IEist fantasies further - most of which no serious researcher apparently takes seriously, especially experts in the actual field. [E.g. the Sintashtan chariot claims.] It seems only amateur IEists actually approve of Anthony and his delusional written monologues. Good way of detecting amateurs who are merely obsessed with IEism and don't have any actual knowledge in the subject to distinguish documented, supported facts from blatant self-indulgent fantasy, I suppose.)
Whatââ¬â¢s more, Barney Warf at the University of Kansas in Lawrence says that we know from early Greek historians that post-Bronze Age nomadic pastoralists of the steppe who came after the Yamnaya ââ¬â the Scythians ââ¬â regularly used cannabis as a drug.
ââ¬ÅPeople talk about Herodotusââ¬â¢s accounts of hanging out in the Crimean peninsula smoking weed with the Scythians,ââ¬Â he says.
Warf says the new work is fascinating, and should encourage more researchers to explore the history and prehistory of cannabis. ââ¬ÅI think thereââ¬â¢s a largely untold story of cannabis in Europe from the Bronze Age up until the Renaissance,ââ¬Â he says.
Delusional IEist falsehood alert:
Quote:Weed as a cash crop
The researchers suggest that different groups of people across the Eurasian landmass independently began using the plant at this time ââ¬â perhaps for its psychoactive properties or as a source of food or medicine, or even to make textiles from its fibres.
However, Tarasov and Longââ¬â¢s database suggests it was only in western Eurasia that cannabis was then used regularly by humans down the millennia. Early records of its use in East Asia are fairly scattered, says Long.
This pattern seems to have changed about 5000 years ago, at the start of the Bronze Age, when cannabis use in East Asia apparently intensified.
Tarasov and Long think this timing is significant. By then, nomadic pastoralists on the Eurasian steppe had mastered horse riding, allowing them to cover vast distances and begin forging transcontinental trade networks following the same routes that would become the famous Silk Road several millennia later.
This earlier ââ¬ÅBronze Roadââ¬Â allowed all sorts of commodities to spread between west and east, potentially including cannabis.
(Wait, did they just pretend the IEists invented the Silk Road? Not even Mallory - one of the original peddlers of "IE" Afanasievo in the Tarim - still argues for evidence of Afanasievo in the Tarim.
But the steppist morons riding horses 5000 years ago - or anywhere before about 3000 years ago - is an oft-repeated blatant lie, that those IEists most prone to compulsive lying keep up. <- Note, that's a way to identify compulsive liars.
As even the white supremacist steppist IEist Kuzmina admitted - and echoed by anatolian PIEist Renfrew - there's absolutely NO evidence of any steppist let alone "IE" steppists riding horses before the late 2nd millennium BCE. I.e. just before 1000 BCE = just before 3000YBP.
Quote: Archaeologist Renfrew (2000:44; quoted by Drews) wrote, ââ¬ÅThe mounted warrior nomad horseman does not make his appearance until the end of the second millenniumââ¬Â. Another prominent archaeologist who has been persistently researching the subject for long Kuzmina (2000:122, quoted by Drews:132) wrote ââ¬Åwarrior-horsemen appear in the steppe not in the fourth millennium BC but at the end of the second millennium BCââ¬Â.
And contrary to debile/amateur IEists trying to hold up Anthony's Mere Speculations, there has still been No evidence of steppists riding horses until just before 3000 years ago. Anyone who claims otherwise should be dismissed as peddlers of lies not even upheld by official spokespeople for PIEism.
In fact, many people are now slowly backing of from any intimate connection between horse-domestication and the invention of even wagons and IEism. [Although we know neither wheels nor wagons were invented by IE speakers. Not unless Sumeria and SSVC since before 3500 BCE were centres of IE.] It's a pity there's no death sentence for compulsive liars. If there was, I suspect fewer people would be ready to indulge in it and David Anthony would have remained the no-name hack he should have been in a better world.)
Speaking of substances that stupid people indulge in (of course I approve, as the practice weeds out such stupidity itself):
www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/22/alcohol-direct-cause-seven-forms-of-cancer-study
Quote:Alcohol is a direct cause of seven ââ¬â¹Ã¢â¬â¹forms of cancer, finds study
Analysis implicates alcohol in development of breast, liver and other types of cancer and says even moderate consumption is a risk
Friday 22 July 2016 00.15 BST
www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer
Quote:Alcohol causes 7 types of cancer, including breast, mouth and bowel cancers.
IIRC, the news I came across specifically said it had been shown to cause *at least* 7 types of cancers. The rest still to be investigated.
Can't wait to hear how the Yamna invented this too. Hope Anthony comes up with some grand (i.e. idiotic) story that he tries to sell about this too. Good for all senile ... I mean IEists. They should then all be encouraged to binge too. Will work wonders in conjuction with smoking pot to channel their proto-ghazi (stoner) ancestors from the steppes, or so I understand.
ADDED:
Quote:This pattern seems to have changed about 5000 years ago, at the start of the Bronze Age, when cannabis use in East Asia apparently intensified.
Tarasov and Long think this timing is significant. By then, nomadic pastoralists on the Eurasian steppe had mastered horse riding, allowing them to cover vast distances and begin forging transcontinental trade networks following the same routes that would become the famous Silk Road several millennia later.
This earlier ââ¬ÅBronze Roadââ¬Â allowed all sorts of commodities to spread between west and east, potentially including cannabis.
(There was no "Bronze Road" to do with "IE" steppe entities. Steppe entities *didn't* even ride horses until just before 1000 BCE, etc.)
Oh I see what they did there. They just pushed "IE" contacts with China to 3000 BCE / 5kya (previously they were trying this with the Tarim Basin, but that didn't go back before 2500 BCE and there is still no proven contact of Tarim with steppists anyway*). IEism will next start pillaging/claiming E Asian things other than cannabis usage at that 3000 BCE period.
* But there IS proven contact between Indians and possibly Iranians with the Tarim Basin: even white supremacist IEist steppist Victor Mair had to admit Tarim contacts with "Indo-Aryans". He only admitted it from 500 BCE onwards. Meanwhile Li & colleagues in much a later paper said Indians (mtDNA M5 which is NOT from the steppes but Indian specific) and Iranians (though mtDNA U7 is equally Indian) - whom the authors said had entered Tarim from BMAC - were present from the earliest strata in a key Tarim site (2000 BCE IIRC).
Death to traitors.

