04-08-2005, 09:51 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...touchables.html
Every hour two Dalits are assaulted; every day three Dalit women are raped, two Dalits are murdered, and two Dalit homes are torched.
Despite the fact that untouchability was officially banned when India adopted its constitution in 1950, discrimination against Dalits remained <b>so pervasive</b> that in 1989 the government passed legislation known as The Prevention of Atrocities Act. The act specifically made it illegal to parade people naked through the streets, force them to eat feces, take away their land, foul their water, interfere with their right to vote, and burn down their homes. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No such hate crimes against any other ethnic, caste, religious or race group in India; not parsis, brahmins, sikhs, jains, buddhists, madrasis in Mumbai, banglas in Kolkota, etc. This is a silent war against a specific 'ethnic group'. The 'sustained occurences' over decades and 'the volume' makes it a non-state sponsored genocide.
Read your own words Rajesh,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.wider.unu.edu/conference/conf...t-0206.pdf
The data from this link is also from NCRB the same place that I gave you the data from. It says "Table 1 All India-<b>Crimes against Dalits</b>-1992 to 2000" (page 14). I have given you the link for total crimes in India which is 1.77 million. 250,000 is about 15 % of 1.77 million while dalits form about 16.6 % of Indian population ? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which part of these statistics do you have trouble understanding? There are 252,000 crimes AGAINST dalits in a 10 year period. There were 28,000 in 2,000, and nearly 40,000 in 2001 provided in the other links. The minister said so in Parliament.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"The data (that you posted) shows that the number of crimes against dalits are BELOW the percentage of population of dalits."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These are classified as race/hate crimes. It should be zero, and not correspond with dalit population ratios. It shows you do not understand statistics. There are crimes everywhere in the world but there are zero hate crimes in most nations.
There are no statistics for dalit crimes against dalits. But that is not the issue; there should be none. Perhaps you are insinuating that its a dalit problem and nothing to do with Indians or Hindus? Hmm?
Ashok, Rajesh has not brought forth anything except his feigned incompetancy in understanding statistics or what the Indian minister said. The statistics are already there in that same link. A google search shows tremendous embaressing info.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, the question of your Indian origin was brought up couple days ago in another thread available on this open forum - feel free to search for it, <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There again - racists aren't they! I cannot keep track of all threads. Feel free to malign me when I'm not around. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anyone who wants to engage me can drop a note.
Rajesh and Viren, both of you appear to be trying to safe your sorry fasses in this forum by attempting to malign me. Don't. The Approver has given testimony. I checked; the judge has no 'wiggle room' to fudge. The case is lost. You'll were wrong. Faces are ditched in the mud. So dont bother anymore.
Agnivayu, 270 million dalits <b>in 2050.</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I knew some Indian Christians who used to complain about discrimination from Hindus, until they got their a$$ whooped in the deep south in America by fellow Christians (rednecks)
Indian Muslims who have gone to Saudi Arabia suddenly love the racist Hindu after experiencing fellow muslim tolerance (Arabs consider all south asians as darker skinned inferiors) . <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm aware of this. The christians and muslims will deal with their problems. We'll deal with ours.
Pathma
PS: K.Ram, give it a rest, huh? If HAF can engage me respectfully, why can't you?
Every hour two Dalits are assaulted; every day three Dalit women are raped, two Dalits are murdered, and two Dalit homes are torched.
Despite the fact that untouchability was officially banned when India adopted its constitution in 1950, discrimination against Dalits remained <b>so pervasive</b> that in 1989 the government passed legislation known as The Prevention of Atrocities Act. The act specifically made it illegal to parade people naked through the streets, force them to eat feces, take away their land, foul their water, interfere with their right to vote, and burn down their homes. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No such hate crimes against any other ethnic, caste, religious or race group in India; not parsis, brahmins, sikhs, jains, buddhists, madrasis in Mumbai, banglas in Kolkota, etc. This is a silent war against a specific 'ethnic group'. The 'sustained occurences' over decades and 'the volume' makes it a non-state sponsored genocide.
Read your own words Rajesh,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.wider.unu.edu/conference/conf...t-0206.pdf
The data from this link is also from NCRB the same place that I gave you the data from. It says "Table 1 All India-<b>Crimes against Dalits</b>-1992 to 2000" (page 14). I have given you the link for total crimes in India which is 1.77 million. 250,000 is about 15 % of 1.77 million while dalits form about 16.6 % of Indian population ? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which part of these statistics do you have trouble understanding? There are 252,000 crimes AGAINST dalits in a 10 year period. There were 28,000 in 2,000, and nearly 40,000 in 2001 provided in the other links. The minister said so in Parliament.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"The data (that you posted) shows that the number of crimes against dalits are BELOW the percentage of population of dalits."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These are classified as race/hate crimes. It should be zero, and not correspond with dalit population ratios. It shows you do not understand statistics. There are crimes everywhere in the world but there are zero hate crimes in most nations.
There are no statistics for dalit crimes against dalits. But that is not the issue; there should be none. Perhaps you are insinuating that its a dalit problem and nothing to do with Indians or Hindus? Hmm?
Ashok, Rajesh has not brought forth anything except his feigned incompetancy in understanding statistics or what the Indian minister said. The statistics are already there in that same link. A google search shows tremendous embaressing info.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, the question of your Indian origin was brought up couple days ago in another thread available on this open forum - feel free to search for it, <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There again - racists aren't they! I cannot keep track of all threads. Feel free to malign me when I'm not around. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anyone who wants to engage me can drop a note. Rajesh and Viren, both of you appear to be trying to safe your sorry fasses in this forum by attempting to malign me. Don't. The Approver has given testimony. I checked; the judge has no 'wiggle room' to fudge. The case is lost. You'll were wrong. Faces are ditched in the mud. So dont bother anymore.
Agnivayu, 270 million dalits <b>in 2050.</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I knew some Indian Christians who used to complain about discrimination from Hindus, until they got their a$$ whooped in the deep south in America by fellow Christians (rednecks)
Indian Muslims who have gone to Saudi Arabia suddenly love the racist Hindu after experiencing fellow muslim tolerance (Arabs consider all south asians as darker skinned inferiors) . <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm aware of this. The christians and muslims will deal with their problems. We'll deal with ours.
Pathma
PS: K.Ram, give it a rest, huh? If HAF can engage me respectfully, why can't you?