07-17-2010, 06:25 PM
[quote name='Husky' date='09 May 2010 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1273411407' post='106297']
This is something I never understood: why is it always only Hindus who claim all Indic religions are an equal part of Hindu religion and that any who calls themselves Hindu but does not automatically include Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism, they are to be threatened that there is No Hindu Religion Otherwise - just a lot of tattered, equally unrelated sects or something. "Either we're all equally related and are part of the Hindu religion, or there is no Hindu religion". (Except that all those other Indic religions are fortunate enough to have their own names and will choose to declare themselves independent religions whenever they want. If only we were allowed that luxury. It's Hindus that won't allow it.)
And does the other side reciprocate ever?
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that's because you dont understand the importance of doctrine in the sectarian views.What when shaiva or vaishnava schools claim that while they are culturally hindu,the are not hindu from religion of doctrine point of view.If a shaiva say that shaiva are good version of hinduism and all other hindu sects are the decadent versions of hinduism,or when a vaishnava say that vaishnava is the restoration of the true hinduism degraded in time,what do you say?
See when vaishnava personalists allied themselves whit christians against shankarian advaita impersonalists and atheists.
when shaivas see Shiva as the Supreme and Vishnu as his servant and despise vaishnava who believe otherwise.
This is something I never understood: why is it always only Hindus who claim all Indic religions are an equal part of Hindu religion and that any who calls themselves Hindu but does not automatically include Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism, they are to be threatened that there is No Hindu Religion Otherwise - just a lot of tattered, equally unrelated sects or something. "Either we're all equally related and are part of the Hindu religion, or there is no Hindu religion". (Except that all those other Indic religions are fortunate enough to have their own names and will choose to declare themselves independent religions whenever they want. If only we were allowed that luxury. It's Hindus that won't allow it.)
And does the other side reciprocate ever?
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that's because you dont understand the importance of doctrine in the sectarian views.What when shaiva or vaishnava schools claim that while they are culturally hindu,the are not hindu from religion of doctrine point of view.If a shaiva say that shaiva are good version of hinduism and all other hindu sects are the decadent versions of hinduism,or when a vaishnava say that vaishnava is the restoration of the true hinduism degraded in time,what do you say?
See when vaishnava personalists allied themselves whit christians against shankarian advaita impersonalists and atheists.
when shaivas see Shiva as the Supreme and Vishnu as his servant and despise vaishnava who believe otherwise.