09-01-2007, 01:32 AM
Thanks ramana.
Regarding the posts that Hyderabad is changing and its character is changing - I belive when India is becoming a huge modern empire of the future it has to change. I think changes to Hyd is the glimple of changes that are happening to India due to massive economic change. This is unstoppable. The question is will we be able to bring back pre-mughal non-mental-slavery based glory back or not.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->there was a character to the city. It was not a hustly bustly north indian city, nor it was culturally inward focused south indian town/city. Hyderabadi hindi was different, hyderabadi attitude was different. In short, Hyderabad and hyderabadis, were unique.
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I would argue that Hyd character is still unique. May be the old uniqueness is replaced by the new uniqueness. I disagree that it has become a big Vijayawada. There are some pockets in the new city that look like Vijayawada. People of coastal AP are with lots of money and enterprenueral and they invested heavily in Chennai before 80s.(During the combined Madras state, majority of Madras are Telugus). After 85 this enterprenural class shifted gears towards Hyderbad and the result is what we are seeing now.
Back to the topic of Hyd blasts and Hyd muslims/demographies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_cult..._Hyderabad
<i>Hyderabad has both Sunni and Shi'ah Muslims, The majority of them being Sunni .The Sunni Muslims mostly follow the Hanafi school of Islamic Jurisprudence, although there are a few who follow the Shafi'i school of thought and mainly reside in areas close to Barkas, the former Military Barracks of the Nizam, an area where the residents are mainly of a Yemeni descent (especially from Hadhramawt).
The Qutb Shahi dynasty of Golconda that founded Hyderabad was Shia. There is still a strong Shia Muslim community in Hyderabad, especially in the "Old City" (area of Hyderabad south of the river Musi). Many of them claim their roots to Iran and Persia. After Lucknow, Hyderabad is one of the most prominent Shia Muslim strongholds in the Indian Subcontinent.</i>
My recent observations of Hyd Muslims:
Rich Muslims consists of muslims with blood lines to Turkey, Iran and other middle eastern countries. These are truly like the rape classes of TSP. The lower srtata of muslims are exploited and brainwashed a lot and this is the problem area.
These days you see a lot of Bangladeshis and pakistanis in hyd muslim areas. There are some crazy folks in Hyd who followed like a cult and married people from Pakistan deliberately. Using these relatives there are many legal and illegal Pakistanis. The economic conditions of the city is too good for these folks to be drivers and cleaners of vehicles in the city. They form the low level intel for ISI and are part of the active sleeper cells of the city. This is the bombshell that is exploding these days in the form of international islamism.
Regaridng neutralizing these sleeper cells, there needs to be a will like Narendra Modi to take head on. Police in Hyd is very efficient and they know all these cells.
Regarding the posts that Hyderabad is changing and its character is changing - I belive when India is becoming a huge modern empire of the future it has to change. I think changes to Hyd is the glimple of changes that are happening to India due to massive economic change. This is unstoppable. The question is will we be able to bring back pre-mughal non-mental-slavery based glory back or not.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->there was a character to the city. It was not a hustly bustly north indian city, nor it was culturally inward focused south indian town/city. Hyderabadi hindi was different, hyderabadi attitude was different. In short, Hyderabad and hyderabadis, were unique.
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I would argue that Hyd character is still unique. May be the old uniqueness is replaced by the new uniqueness. I disagree that it has become a big Vijayawada. There are some pockets in the new city that look like Vijayawada. People of coastal AP are with lots of money and enterprenueral and they invested heavily in Chennai before 80s.(During the combined Madras state, majority of Madras are Telugus). After 85 this enterprenural class shifted gears towards Hyderbad and the result is what we are seeing now.
Back to the topic of Hyd blasts and Hyd muslims/demographies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_cult..._Hyderabad
<i>Hyderabad has both Sunni and Shi'ah Muslims, The majority of them being Sunni .The Sunni Muslims mostly follow the Hanafi school of Islamic Jurisprudence, although there are a few who follow the Shafi'i school of thought and mainly reside in areas close to Barkas, the former Military Barracks of the Nizam, an area where the residents are mainly of a Yemeni descent (especially from Hadhramawt).
The Qutb Shahi dynasty of Golconda that founded Hyderabad was Shia. There is still a strong Shia Muslim community in Hyderabad, especially in the "Old City" (area of Hyderabad south of the river Musi). Many of them claim their roots to Iran and Persia. After Lucknow, Hyderabad is one of the most prominent Shia Muslim strongholds in the Indian Subcontinent.</i>
My recent observations of Hyd Muslims:
Rich Muslims consists of muslims with blood lines to Turkey, Iran and other middle eastern countries. These are truly like the rape classes of TSP. The lower srtata of muslims are exploited and brainwashed a lot and this is the problem area.
These days you see a lot of Bangladeshis and pakistanis in hyd muslim areas. There are some crazy folks in Hyd who followed like a cult and married people from Pakistan deliberately. Using these relatives there are many legal and illegal Pakistanis. The economic conditions of the city is too good for these folks to be drivers and cleaners of vehicles in the city. They form the low level intel for ISI and are part of the active sleeper cells of the city. This is the bombshell that is exploding these days in the form of international islamism.
Regaridng neutralizing these sleeper cells, there needs to be a will like Narendra Modi to take head on. Police in Hyd is very efficient and they know all these cells.