05-04-2007, 08:36 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+May 4 2007, 06:08 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ May 4 2007, 06:08 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Who here asked anyone to stop teaching English?
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Not on this forum, but please read the link I have given above. That news is pretty much a current topic where I live
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+May 4 2007, 06:08 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ May 4 2007, 06:08 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->But no here wants to hear "Tenglish" and "Kanglish" which display blatant ignorance of both languages.
All these posers I see can't carry on a normal convo wid a gora but act like they are english pandits by mixing it with Telugu even when there is no need for it.
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I don't know. I tend to see these things differently and I will post my thoughts as two separate points in this regard.
1) As a rough guesstimate. for every 10 or 20 "Tenglish/Kanglish" people that are created there is usually one person who is really good in two languages who can be of use as a bilinguist. One sees them all over the place, at least in India. Secondly, many people whose English is poor early in their lives are good by the time they retire - which is when they get motivated to do something useful, and with increasing lifespans it is not uncommon to find people who have 20 years of life or more after retirement.
2) The hinglish, tenglish, kanglish etc have a utility of their own because they are melding into a hotch-potch "ind-glish". The one thing that used to irritate me no end was our "Indian" fawning for a BBC type "good accent". Little pipsqueak countries use accents of their own and don't worry - so there is no real need for Indians to worry about thick accents. Accents in the UK for example like Scouse, Cockney, Welsh, Scottish or Yorkshire are virtually unintelligible to anyone who has not been exposed to them for a while. These accents sound as good or as bad as tenglish or kanglish and the speakers are a lot more cocky impolite bustards who don't even know one language properly, compared to the decent tenglish speaker who probably is a sensitive and intelligent speaker of at least two languages.
It will be good to have the world rushing to figure out Indian English rather than Indians copying firangi accents. In fact that is already happening right now - with BPOs shifting from making their employees speak pretend accents to using neutral Indian accents.
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Not on this forum, but please read the link I have given above. That news is pretty much a current topic where I live
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+May 4 2007, 06:08 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ May 4 2007, 06:08 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->But no here wants to hear "Tenglish" and "Kanglish" which display blatant ignorance of both languages.
All these posers I see can't carry on a normal convo wid a gora but act like they are english pandits by mixing it with Telugu even when there is no need for it.
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I don't know. I tend to see these things differently and I will post my thoughts as two separate points in this regard.
1) As a rough guesstimate. for every 10 or 20 "Tenglish/Kanglish" people that are created there is usually one person who is really good in two languages who can be of use as a bilinguist. One sees them all over the place, at least in India. Secondly, many people whose English is poor early in their lives are good by the time they retire - which is when they get motivated to do something useful, and with increasing lifespans it is not uncommon to find people who have 20 years of life or more after retirement.
2) The hinglish, tenglish, kanglish etc have a utility of their own because they are melding into a hotch-potch "ind-glish". The one thing that used to irritate me no end was our "Indian" fawning for a BBC type "good accent". Little pipsqueak countries use accents of their own and don't worry - so there is no real need for Indians to worry about thick accents. Accents in the UK for example like Scouse, Cockney, Welsh, Scottish or Yorkshire are virtually unintelligible to anyone who has not been exposed to them for a while. These accents sound as good or as bad as tenglish or kanglish and the speakers are a lot more cocky impolite bustards who don't even know one language properly, compared to the decent tenglish speaker who probably is a sensitive and intelligent speaker of at least two languages.
It will be good to have the world rushing to figure out Indian English rather than Indians copying firangi accents. In fact that is already happening right now - with BPOs shifting from making their employees speak pretend accents to using neutral Indian accents.