How interesting!! the edits have been made from r1a page but not from r1b page. massa is certainly slipping up with covering his tracks. joker wells has even later date for m17 in his infamous rediff article.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The mutations that characterize haplogroup R1b occurred ~30,000 years bp, whereas the mutations that characterize haplogroup R1a occurred ~10,000 years bp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The mutations that characterize haplogroup R1b occurred ~30,000 years bp, whereas the mutations that characterize haplogroup R1a occurred ~10,000 years bp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->