<!--QuoteBegin-shamu+Jun 7 2008, 09:47 AM-->QUOTE(shamu @ Jun 7 2008, 09:47 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indians are the ideal minority in US, why do the rest complain?
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Same reason that the Indian communists can't stand the Dharmic population in India, or why China's communists will team up with missionaries to beat Chinese Buddhists down.
Because conscious heathens can't be assimilated. They are used to thinking for themselves and don't enter into the thought-patterns that the christo-conditioned follow. Thinking outside the box they draw around you is considered dangerous in autocratic societies - even the kind of societies that brainwashes people into thinking they live in a democratic, liberal environment.
That is why pseculars in India hate Dharmics too. For example, we don't agree with them on their view that history is something that should be negotiable or that it is okay to rewrite history to make factual, historical tyrants look good. Pseculars want to do so to make a future without the past and they find the burden of christoislamic intolerance rather troubling in fashioning India the way they want it. So they will blame something or other on the Dharmic populations to get the imbalance into a theoretical equal-equal situation and then argue that "therefore" we can start a clean slate by doing a negation on history.
They will then have to explain current islamic terrorism and will do so in terms of economics or modern social constructs, rather than admit to the real eternal reason: that of intolerant jihadi expansionism at the expense of a kaffiri population. Similarly, modern christian violent aggression is denied and in fact legitimised: "they have the right to convert" (that means no one has a right to protest their impinging on our personal space, let alone their militant terrorism in NE India and elsewhere).
Here's an example of the kind of scary Indians who argue for presenting a pristine feel-good history - "who cares if it's at the expense of historical facts". Look for one "Sanjeev Sabhlok" at
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/05/18/ait...ashing-history/
Scary person. To think that that (otherwise sensible) site supports this Sabhlok guy's political party in India.
The same mentality pushing communists and psecularists in India and the rest of the east also fuels the American discomfort about "non-integrating" Indians.
No terrorist acts, no calls for jihad or conversion, no civil disobedience or anything like that threatens the US or their government from the (Dharmic) Indian quarter. Yet they are scared. They are scared because Indians will not assimilate - inconvertible. Indians will be lawful citizens and to that extent seem to be docile, but still don't go the whole way into becoming an American mind, because in all other matters of life, many Indians remain who they are. Beyond surface similarities, we are fundamentally different in our mental makeup from the US.
American history is based on the fact that those who will not assimilate will be annihilated. Either openly (native N Americans) or with the propaganda war (e.g. Wendy Doniger and her spawn "children", WitSSel et al).
You need to know about America to understand its paranoia. The less the US talks about the native Americans, the more you know the murdered are haunting them. It is a great hush that is screaming on the other side of life.
Until they change Indian migrants' pattern of thinking - and they are certainly trying - they will not achieve the kind of absolute and total integration they seek. Like Dhu always says, the American advert for "individualism" is merely a blind for the fact that they want you to 'voluntarily' comply completely with their way of thinking and living. There is no true independence intended behind their notion.
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Same reason that the Indian communists can't stand the Dharmic population in India, or why China's communists will team up with missionaries to beat Chinese Buddhists down.
Because conscious heathens can't be assimilated. They are used to thinking for themselves and don't enter into the thought-patterns that the christo-conditioned follow. Thinking outside the box they draw around you is considered dangerous in autocratic societies - even the kind of societies that brainwashes people into thinking they live in a democratic, liberal environment.
That is why pseculars in India hate Dharmics too. For example, we don't agree with them on their view that history is something that should be negotiable or that it is okay to rewrite history to make factual, historical tyrants look good. Pseculars want to do so to make a future without the past and they find the burden of christoislamic intolerance rather troubling in fashioning India the way they want it. So they will blame something or other on the Dharmic populations to get the imbalance into a theoretical equal-equal situation and then argue that "therefore" we can start a clean slate by doing a negation on history.
They will then have to explain current islamic terrorism and will do so in terms of economics or modern social constructs, rather than admit to the real eternal reason: that of intolerant jihadi expansionism at the expense of a kaffiri population. Similarly, modern christian violent aggression is denied and in fact legitimised: "they have the right to convert" (that means no one has a right to protest their impinging on our personal space, let alone their militant terrorism in NE India and elsewhere).
Here's an example of the kind of scary Indians who argue for presenting a pristine feel-good history - "who cares if it's at the expense of historical facts". Look for one "Sanjeev Sabhlok" at
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/05/18/ait...ashing-history/
Scary person. To think that that (otherwise sensible) site supports this Sabhlok guy's political party in India.
The same mentality pushing communists and psecularists in India and the rest of the east also fuels the American discomfort about "non-integrating" Indians.
No terrorist acts, no calls for jihad or conversion, no civil disobedience or anything like that threatens the US or their government from the (Dharmic) Indian quarter. Yet they are scared. They are scared because Indians will not assimilate - inconvertible. Indians will be lawful citizens and to that extent seem to be docile, but still don't go the whole way into becoming an American mind, because in all other matters of life, many Indians remain who they are. Beyond surface similarities, we are fundamentally different in our mental makeup from the US.
American history is based on the fact that those who will not assimilate will be annihilated. Either openly (native N Americans) or with the propaganda war (e.g. Wendy Doniger and her spawn "children", WitSSel et al).
You need to know about America to understand its paranoia. The less the US talks about the native Americans, the more you know the murdered are haunting them. It is a great hush that is screaming on the other side of life.
Until they change Indian migrants' pattern of thinking - and they are certainly trying - they will not achieve the kind of absolute and total integration they seek. Like Dhu always says, the American advert for "individualism" is merely a blind for the fact that they want you to 'voluntarily' comply completely with their way of thinking and living. There is no true independence intended behind their notion.