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1. www.nature.com/news/how-china-is-rewriting-the-book-on-human-origins-1.20231

How China is rewriting the book on human origins



Fossil finds in China are challenging ideas about the evolution of modern humans and our closest relatives.

Jane Qiu



12 July 2016

Not everybody is convinced. “Fossil interpretations are notoriously problematic,” says Svante Pääbo, a palaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany. But DNA from Eurasian fossils dating to the start of the human race could help to reveal which story — or combination — is correct. China is now making a push in that direction. Qiaomei Fu, a palaeogeneticist who did her PhD with Pääbo, returned home last year to establish a lab to extract and sequence ancient DNA at the IVPP. One of her immediate goals is to see whether some of the Chinese fossils belong to the mysterious Denisovan group. The prominent molar teeth from Xujiayao will be an early target. “I think we have a prime suspect here,” she says.

(Yes, she's *the* Fu from Harvard's Fu et al 2016 paper.)



Plus one of the comments is interesting:

sen darbi

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2016-07-18 09:12 PM



The book on human origins was already rewritten (and then discarded) with the discoveries in Hueyatlaco, modern humans in North American at least 250,000, and perhaps as early as 300,000 to 400,000 years ago, according to four dating methods. They just weren't supposed to be there. But those finds had to be denied and ignored, because they proved conventional scientific beliefs about human origins to be myths, and would have effectively demolished the status quo of the scientific establishment regarding ancient humanity. It's really hard to admit, isn't it, that you haven't known what you're talking about through the course of your professional life. And others must go along, or be out on the street. So it's also a question of money. And that of course is not science. We are so much worse off then, those of us who simply seek the truth about such a fascinating and mysterious riddle—where did we come from? Science, alas, is not science, not on the big questions. It is politics, money, and human pride.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hueyatlaco

Hueyatlaco

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Hueyatlaco is an archeological site in the Valsequillo Basin near the city of Puebla, Mexico. After excavations in the 1960s, the site became notorious due to geochronologists' analyses that indicated human habitation at Hueyatlaco was dated to ca. 250,000 years before the present.[1][2]



These controversial findings are orders of magnitude older than the scientific consensus for habitation of the New World (which generally traces widespread human migration to the New World to 13,000 to 16,000 ybp). The findings at Hueyatlaco have mostly been repudiated by the larger scientific community, and have seen only occasional discussion in the literature.[3]



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Biostratigraphic researcher Sam VanLandingham has published two peer-reviewed analyses that confirm the earlier findings of ca. 250,000ybp for the tool-bearing strata at Heyatlaco. His 2004 analysis found that Hueyatlaco samples could be dated to the Sangamonian Interglacial period (ca. 80,000 to 220,000ybp) by the presence of multiple diatom species, one of which first appeared during this era and others that became extinct by the era's end.[10] VanLandingham's 2006 paper[11] refined and re-confirmed his 2004 findings.

Need to check for any aDNA (if the ancient samples yield DNA) to see if and how "modern human" these hominid remains are.





But most can't be bothered. Steppists, IEists and other eurocentrists however are forever preoccupied with Europe/Europeans (dubbed "Caucasians" mystifyingly), and so Harvard(?) is now going to come out with yet another aDNA paper on Eurospace instead. But thein, all their research is always about themselves, from their POV, to tell stories about themselves and to pre-emptively direct all the future storytelling about themselves (about "European" ethnogenesis). They're boring now, overstudied, and mostly (if not entirely) irrelevant to everyone else. But they'll still keep pretending they're a source rather than a sink population, by pre-emptively doing all the early aDNA studies about themselves, thereby dictating - as much as possible and for as long as possible - all the storytelling about many other "Eurasian" populations as being (partial) derivatives of Europeans.





2. Anyway, a more sensationalist version is in the news (which didn't wait for the Chinese hominid aDNA to be analysed before formulating the title as a certainty):



www.express.co.uk/news/science/692980/Humans-Africa-race-evolved-from-CHINA

Humans do NOT originate from Africa – teeth discovery shows race evolved from CHINA

THE idea that modern day humans evolved in Africa is under question by Chinese academics who claim to have fossil evidence showing our ancestors stemmed from the east Asian country.

By Sean Martin

PUBLISHED: 13:08, Mon, Jul 25, 2016 | UPDATED: 13:18, Mon, Jul 25, 2016





The discovery of three human teeth in an ancient limestone cave in the district of Bijie in China could blow our understanding of human origin wide open.



The teeth, according to the researchers, are between 112,000 years and 178,000 years old – which is shockingly 75,000 years older than the first modern human fossils found in Africa.



When the teeth were first discovered, it was thought they belonged to an extinct ancestor of humans known as homo altaiensis, or Denisovian.



But new analysis shows that they belonged to homo sapiens.

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Here too, one or two of the comments have bits of info:

human remains older than those in Africa have also been found in Afghanistan

(Of course, it could still be that the oldest modern humans are in Africa, waiting to be found. Or that older remains there were just too poorly preserved - because of the climate for instance - so that the real answer could remain elusive. A la how Malta-1 may be one of many migrants to Siberia - one of many extinct lines - and that ANE is not native to north eurasia/didn't originate there, but rather somewhere that couldn't preserve the source of such strains well.)





And of course, a comment revealing the white supremacist psyche/fears (eurocentrists never wanted African origins):

Snodgrass

This has long been an issue. The Chinese have been very confident that the Chinese race developed seperately. They reject the African basis for all Homo Sapien Sapien. I understood the genetic evidence supported the Out Of Africa theory and western scientists in the main do so , but genetic evedence is so easily corrupted a find like this so early could change everything..... If western gentic markers are missing from these finds we have lot of work to do....

Good for the Chinese for taking history-writing into their own hands, rather than letting the alien demons always write it for everybody, with everyone waiting around for the aliens to tell them stories based on (obviously) incomplete data.



It's Chinese researchers that made the major recent finds for & revealed some of the most important recent info on dinos too (besides IIRC supplying the final proofs regarding dino to bird evolution too).





3. Another topic:



www.express.co.uk/news/science/655379/Ancient-dormant-virus-lurking-in-YOUR-DNA-which-could-RESURRECT-itself-at-any-moment

Ancient dormant virus lurking in YOUR DNA which could RESURRECT itself at any moment

AN ANCIENT virus is lurking within our DNA which could spring back into action at any moment, scientists have discovered.

By Sean Martin

PUBLISHED: 17:25, Thu, Mar 24, 2016 | UPDATED: 17:41, Thu, Mar 24, 2016





[...] After analysing the genome of some 2,500 people, the team found nineteen new pieces of non-human DNA within our genome, taking the total of us which isn’t human to a whopping eight per cent, which is largely made up of viruses.



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Some of this newly discovered DNA could have been passed along through humans for as long as 670,000 years, and some of which may influence diseases in our bodies today.



However, most startlingly is the fact that the experts have found a piece of viral code which is still completely intact and may spring an ancient virus into life once more.

Are they sure only 8% of human DNA is viral and not all of it? I'd have thought it would be the latter... 'twould explain the parasitic tendencies for the largest parasite (macrovirus) on the planet and the most numerous.

[Heathens exempted from all such insults, of course.]