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Indian Culture-general Discussions - II
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http://www.dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news...llica.html

Quote:Ours is the music of goddess Kali: Metallica

[color="#800080"](Choice of spelling is Press Trust of India/PTI's contribution, I'm sure.)[/color]



Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:59 PTI | Gurgaon



Landing in India to perform two days after Diwali, American heavy metal band Metallica said their music is one of a kind and influenced by goddess Kali.



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"Our music is very different. It is the music of Kali," Hammett (Metallica guitarist) said at a press conference here yesterday before their concert was cancelled.

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I have no argument with Metallica. But their opinion on this sounds typically new-age: they conjure the popular western notion of Kali into their minds, without the slightest clue that it has nothing to do with Kali and everything to do with neo-paganism.

On this matter, Metallica's lead guitarist obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Their music is no more the music of Kali than it is of say Lakshmi or Saraswati or Gayatri etc. (Also, Kali - like all the Hindu Gods - is said to be the source of all the Hindu Kalaa-s and to be an enjoyer of these. The music of Kali is Hindu music, she likes the Songs of the Saamam, Shyamala plays the Veenaa, etc.) Why can't Metallica say theirs is the music of Thor or inspired by Thor? (Okay, don't know about metal - old or Nu - but in any case, Donar must be the God of the epic genre of music known as P.R. It's so beautiful and sounds like the NW European landscape.)



The alien world thinks that Kali is the "Goddess of Darkness, Death and Destruction" or something (and not in the kaalaraatri and samhaaram sense, but in the angry mayhem sense).

Actually, more extreme still: new-age satanists even imagine she has something to do with the christian hell. (And even tongue-in-cheek entities list her in a line-up that includes the various devils of the christian hells like Beelzebub etc.) This alien connotation given to Kali is inline with the villain role the west has long attributed to her, hence even seen in the typical Harryhausen "Hero versus evil monster" setpiece in "The Golden Voyage of Sinbad" where the protagonist battled and IIRC killed a claymation character that the west pretends has something to do with Kali. Will find some images.)



[Image: kali3.jpg]

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More:

http://www.icollector.com/The-Golden-Voy..._i11312320

http://www.icollector.com/images/1111/21...0_3_lg.jpg

http://www.icollector.com/images/1111/21...0_1_lg.jpg

More at http://www.devildead.com/indexfilm.php3?FilmID=387



All such dawaganda against Kali etc comes down from the christocolonial era, where "kah-lee" was projected as some demonic entity that killed at random. Aliens will never get it, I suppose.



Meanwhile new-ageist aliens, who'll also never get it, are worse still and encroach on all Hindu Gods - especially Goddesses (it's an attraction for all things new age and neo-pagan) - and pretend their dabbling selves have something to do with the Hindu Gods. The "neo-pagans" are the ones frequently seen collecting Hindu mantras, calling themselves mantrinis (many of them are women, since new-age religions have a surplus of something called "Goddess Religion" - which has nothing to do with actual heathens' religions that focus on heathen Goddesses, but which will insist on dabbling with *heathen* religions' Goddesses all the same), and many aliens often dabble in Buddhism and call themselves "Buddhist" only because they imagine this will give them access to Hindu Gods and *Hindu* texts on Hindu Gods. It's insane how aliens pounce on Hindu stotras - from Hindus' upanishads and Hindus' puranas etc - all while pretending this has something to do with their assumed Buddhism.

But, that's christo-conditioned aliens: there's no end to their hopeless weirdness.



You'd think that once they forswear christianism they'd snap out of it. But no, they will be 1. wiccans or neo-/"pagans" AND 2. "buddhists" AND 3. dabblers in "Hellenismos" AND 4. dabblers in "Daoism" AND 5. dabblers in "Hinduism" or at least Hindu Gods and Hindu stotras with no credit given to Hindus' religion. (And often they're students of 6. Greek AND/OR 7. Latin AND 8. Sanskrit.) Ugh.



But I suppose angelsk-speaking Indians - the kind (very common among NRIs in western nations) who fall over themselves on acquiring foreign uh "converts" and actively hope to induct many more aliens into Hindus' ancestral religion* -

but I suppose those angelsk-speaking Indians, sorry "Hindus", will think all such new-age dabblers are some kind of victory for or asset to Hindu Dharma. They actively seek alien "converts", after all. If only one could be divorced from such Indians. But I forget: there never was any relation to begin with.



If I never see another alien dabbling in Hindu religion again, it will be Too Darn Soon.

At least can be pleased that the FAQ at Ysee.gr contains a bit on avoiding neo-paganism etc, covered in their typical clear-minded manner.





* E.g. of Indians actively seeking converts among aliens:

http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2010/...n-the-end/

Quote:January 3, 2010 · 10:35 am

Why Hinduism will win in the end



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Just explain the concepts of Hinduism to Americans and Europeans and they will come on their own — there is no need for us to carry rice bags with us like missionaries to sell spurious goods that no one will buy otherwise. Aren’t we all proud to be Hindu, the inheritors of the greatest civilisation humanity has ever produced?

[color="#800080"](I'm not even going to comment.)[/color]



I request you to mail the link of Hindu Wisdom to everyone you know. Post it on your Facebook page and spread it everywhere.



Read this to know how Hinduism is taking America by storm:

[color="#800080"](Oh the cheese.... It's not just Hinduism that's taking the west "by storm", but also Buddhism, Voodoun, wicca, blabla. Anything and everything. It's called new age.)[/color]



America fast adapting to “things Indian”

Wendell Thomas also agrees that Hinduism has invaded America.

These people... they can't even reconvert the ethnic Hindus of Bharatam who were and are being brainwashed out of their ancestral Hindu religion and away from their own Divine Parents. And yet, instead, they want to add themselves to the number of Religion Salesmen and sell off Hindu religion to aliens, as if aliens don't have their own ancestral religions (which they ought to be in).

Hindus' religion Does Not Compute To Aliens, it *Will* Fry Their Brains. It *Always* Fries Their Brains. That's what is behind their immediate if not eventual U-turns: they're not heathens, they just momentarily imagine they want to be/can be. If they *were* heathens, they'd be content with their own ancestral religion. Instead of Dabbling or playing Pick And Choose Buffet.

The Hellenes at Ysee.gr who wrote their FAQ are entirely contented with their ancestral religion, the way Hindus, Daoists etc are.



I don't know what's worse: the malefic or vapid alien dabblers terrorising Hindus and Hindu religion* by presuming they have a "right" to other people's ancestral religions/Gods, or the crazy Indians superficially infatuated with their religion that they imagine it is something to be sold to all (by which usually the West is meant). "We'll train you in Yoga and Bharatanatyam, even Vedic Mantras and Homams (!)". I think *Indians* are the ones to blame for a lot - though not all - of the alien dabbling. Yes, I blame not just the jetsetting new-age 'swamis' of various Indian cults - who sell bottled Hinduisms to aliens - but also the everyday Indian PR campaigner for Hinduism (see above example), who are similarly aiming to invite aliens to Hindus' religion (which was never for sale or sharing and certainly no one else's business) and hoping to snag as wide a global audience as possible. And they're mostly - if not always - desperately after the *west*, for rather obvious reasons.

Their knowledge of their ancestral religion seems to also be inversely proportional to their eagerness to get aliens to adopt their religion: all their fervour is externally directed.



I think there's a need for a thread on "Culture Vultures and Religion Thieves: Aliens, Hands Off Our Ancestral ('Ethnic') Religion". But it will not catch on while a growing number of Indians are yet infatuated with acquiring foreign converts. Then when the aliens finally declare that everything Hindu is open-source and belongs to them, the same Indian Religion Salesmen will start whining again (as they did about what happened to Yoga, say) and declare that "it's Hindu, it's Hindu". If people don't want to land themselves into that sort of trouble again, tell the Aliens to Stay Away. Just a uniform "No Conversion And No Dabbling" to everyone and everything. Don't think about their "feelings" - they'll get over it soon enough, probably sooner than it would take for them to U-turn.
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