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Sunderji, Thanks for sharing your experiences. I would also share my humble ones:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Instead of trying to supress the mind, let it do what it wants, and YOU better concentrate on being your SELF. Slowly, you will get over the distractions<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Another approach is that one can see even the distraction as Swarupa of the Lord, especially at the point where you realize that the mind is running. Infact, when the mind jumps from that form(say ganesha), one can concentrate on the other form (ambal), then on Krishna (so many swarupams) and so on. There is no dearth of such forms in hinduism to cater to one's mind which runs like a crazy horse. It helps to have so many Godly swarupas in our religion to help our running mind. Over a period of time, you get to concentrate on one form and then to the formless.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->4) Next stage is 'expectations'. Now the mind will start subsiding and your meditation will progress faster. You will now be EXPECTING to see something. Some kind of a miracle, some different Realm, some being that's wearing kireetam or having gadha, chakra etc. If that's the case, and it happens, you will never know if it's a hallucination or not. <b>Thus do NOT expect anything</b>. Just meditate with the intention of seeking Self Awareness. Absolutely no attributes.. This is hard but not impossible. At this stage, soemtimes patience wears thin, and hopelessness sets in. It's also a stage where one would want to give up. But proceed anyway.
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Abosolutely agree. That too with the bolded portion. The Guru plays a very very vital role here.i.e to help differentiate b/w the hallucination and real experience, to give patience so that you don't give up and help you proceed. I hope your Guru (is it your father?) really helped you out overcome this stage.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->While the above seems to be easy, and not requiring any other factor except one's own willpower, I can assert that this will *not* heppen without the Divine Grace.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Amen.

Hope you do not mind answering some questions that arose out of my curiosity.
1) Do you come across these stages daily in your meditation. During the initial stages did you have more of 1 than 2 than 3 and so on and when you progressed, you have more 5 than 4 than 3..?
2) Is this pattern the same everyday?
3) Is there a name for your form of meditation and does it have a mantra, mudra and asana component for it? (In case it is very personal, please do not post it).
4) Though unrelated to your previous post, Is the Vishtaadvaitins theory the Bhagavatas theory that you and Swamy Sivananda talks about with reference to Brahma Sutras?

Thanks in advance.
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